<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016</id><updated>2011-07-23T08:50:20.956+02:00</updated><category term='my self'/><category term='My Sermons'/><category term='Latin American theology'/><category term='Protestant Heritage'/><category term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><category term='Give peace a chance'/><category term='U2'/><title type='text'>A Post-Modern Protestant in Paris</title><subtitle type='html'>I'm South American, educated in English Canada, living in Paris and
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 Jesus is the same; here, there and overthere, and that His Kingdom is already here, yet It is coming soon</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>33</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-3497341919864634652</id><published>2010-04-20T05:13:00.013+02:00</published><updated>2010-04-20T15:51:52.970+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>Could the  Church be sinner ?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:times, serif;"&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Before I was 17 years old I was a good young catholic, I even went to see Jean Paul II in 1984 when he came to my country. I was highly educated in a Jesuit school. Actually, they taught me to never accept an statement without questioning it. So I did, I read my bible looking for answers, met my Lord and inevitably left catholic path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;So as a Latin-American I have a special feeling and love for grassroots Catholics, I have seen their search for faith and I understand their love for their religion. Catholicism is part of culture and grassroots Catholicism helped poor people to survive their masters and poverty. Only their Christ (unfortunately not always &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;the biblical one) gives them hope to keep walking. Many of them have a real relationship with God. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;So I felt sad when I noticed trough the 90’s &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;that Jean Paul II and his right arm Mr Ratzinger removed from any authority in their church enthusiastic priest with new progressive ideas in Latin America.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Priests that read their bibles, believed in Love and the Grace of God. To removed them &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;was a long process that lasted many years. When Jean Paul II died and Mr Ratzinger arrived to the power as pope, all Cardinals in latin America and probably the world belonged to the old catholic orthodox school. The cleaning up was completed, and all priests from Vatican II that had any new progressive view were relocated as simple priests in some forgotten parish in some forgoten town. So you imagine I was not a surprise to see Mr Ratzinger becoming Pope and having all these old orthodoxy interpretation of his church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Why I rumble all these things? Well somehow I am very very surprised that and intelligent man as Mr Ratzinger (better&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;known today as Benoit XVI) has made such a theological mistake. He just called church “sinner” and &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;“wounded”(see the media)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I won’t debate internal catholic scandals. It is sad what is happening, and it is not new. It has been more than 20 years we have heard about this problems, so one day justice had to cry louder, so it does today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But that is not the issue I want to talk. Mr Ratzinger has made a weird theological statement.&lt;span&gt;  The Bible teaches us that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1271733165_0"&gt;The Church is the Body of Christ and it&lt;/span&gt; is the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1271733165_1"&gt;Bride of Christ too. And as the apostolic creed says "i&lt;/span&gt;t is Holy" because it has been cleaned by blood of the lamb of God. And it goes through history victorious even in tribulations. The Bible will never called the church sinner or wounded, even in rough times, &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;like when Paul wrote to Corinthians, and weird things were happening in that church. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But for Mr Ratzinger his priest are the church! And &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;some of his priest are sinners, &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;therefore the church is sinner. It is embarrassing, but Catholic theology has been trapped in a paradox that contradicts Paul’s writings and their own theology of Church  . They just have gotten themselves a holy church that is sinner. Will they drop the word "Holy" in their creed? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;If you are an outsider you may wonder, why after 500 years Protestants and Catholics are still separated? Why is even so diffcult to agree and reunify at least in one symbolic ecumenical church?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Well differences can be more difficult to solve than we think.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Oddly enough&lt;b&gt;  it is not the protestant dogma of salvation by faith what dived u&lt;/b&gt;s.Although it is not Vatican theology  many Catholics and priest believe that too, neither the Bible is a big difference, we have the same Bible, and they have lovely translations. We both believe Christ is the Son of God who came for our sins, ..well they have their saints… So what is this the real difference?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;What really differentiates us is; &lt;b&gt;the understanding of what The Church is, and the How the Grace of God is send by God.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;For Protestants (all movements); Church is the community of believers that have been touched by the Grace united by the Holy Spirit. God gives his grace directly to each believer and all believers are priests,  so all believers are equals before the Grace. A minister and simple believer are just equals, sinners saved by his Grace. For us God in Jesus, delivers his Grace as he wishes, and we only announce the good news.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;For Catholics; Church is the community of believers united by the Holy Spirit  which allows the church to hold and delivers the Grace of God. But the Holy Spirit does not act the same in all believer.  Not all believers can deliver the Grace of God, only those that have received priesthood. And &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1271733165_2"&gt;Priesthood&lt;/span&gt; can only be delivered by the Pope who is directly chosen by the Holy Spirit to validate the elite of priests the Holy Spirits choses among believers . So there is an elite chosen by the Holy Spirit that delivers the Grace of God through the seven sacraments. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Grace can only be delivered through these seven sacraments. Each on of this 7 sacraments are concrete manifestations of the Grace of God. So the Catholic Church is based on this elite that has been named by God through the Pope to deliver these 7 sacraments (so the Grace of God). You are free to believe the way you want, (salvation by faith if you want) But you cannot doubt neither question: the 7 sacraments (the manifestation of the Grace of God)  , the people that delivers them (the priests) and the one that has been chosen to lead this elite (The Pope)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;So Priesthood  is understood for them as eternal and mystical reality, a superior state of grace more important that the man who is the priest. Why? Because the sin of the priest should not affect the Grace of God delivered in a sacrament.  So even if the man is the worst sinner, he is still a priest that holds and delivers the Grace of God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;. So the church must cover the sinner to protect the mystery of his priesthood which is bigger than the man that holds it. So God will continue to deliver His Grace in the seven sacraments through the priesthood of this man, even if this man is the worst sinner, through the years Catholic church felt necessary to protect the sinner not because the man but  because his priesthood which overcomes the man, and finally is more important than the man, because priesthood is the fundamental on which catholic church is built..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;For Protestants, if the believer sins (or a minster, who is just a man, we do not have elite priesthood, we are all priests ) then the man is a sinner. If his sin is a crime against society, he is excluded from the community until he repents and he should pay his duties to the&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;law. So even if the Church is sad, the sin of this man does not transform the community in "sinner".&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Church is holy because the Lord has cleaned it, man is a sinner and individually responsible of his own sins. The protestant believer does not deliver the Grace of God, He proclaims it!!. It is up to God to deliver it in Jesus name and according to his will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;For Catholics, their priest have sin, the church in order to protect priesthood has historically  covered their sins. Now they feel guilty, they realize it was a sin; so priesthood is in sin, so Mr Ratzinger concludes the church is sinner. They have wounded their believers, so Church is sinner and wounded….It seems to me he is caught in an illogical logic, and completely forgot that Church is the future wife of Christ and Christ himself  is his head. It does not belong to priests, pastors. or who ever. It belongs to Him!!!. I hope he has not forgotten who Christ is and that He himself will come to judge us too. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I am sorry Mr Ratzinger some of your priest may be sinners, and criminals, and they must pay their crimes, but the real Church of Christ is not sinner and many of your grassroots Catholics have been touched and will be touched by the Grace of God.  Wake up, call your people to real conversion, call from the exile all these good priests who read their bibles and wanted to change your church and with  grassroots catholic that only have Jesus as consolation be for once part of the Real Spiritual Universal and I&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1271733165_3"&gt;nvisible Church of Christ&lt;/span&gt;, which is Holy and Victorious  by His I&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1271733165_4"&gt;rresistible Grace&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-3497341919864634652?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/3497341919864634652/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2010/04/could-church-be-sinner.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3497341919864634652'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3497341919864634652'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2010/04/could-church-be-sinner.html' title='Could the  Church be sinner ?'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-1746019757504747855</id><published>2010-03-02T19:02:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2010-03-02T19:20:16.326+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>Marie Durand; Resister!! Protestant Heritage</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Marie Durand was born in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_0" style="border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;July 15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, 1711 and she died in 1776 in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;south of France&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;(Ardèche)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41Wb23TzyI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/KUT5jv3DBAQ/s1600-h/aout+007.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 267px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41Wb23TzyI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/KUT5jv3DBAQ/s320/aout+007.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5444102561144753954" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; She is a historic French Protestant character that belonged to the reformed movement started by Calvin and Luther in the XVI century. She is still remembered by European &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Protestants&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, unfortunately unknown or forgotten in the Americas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;She was only 18 years old when she was arrested and imprisoned in the Royal Fortress “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_3" style="border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Aigues-Mortes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;” at &lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the Mediterranean Sea shores, more precisely in the Tower of Constance (see picture) &lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;This fortress was built in the XIII century to affirm French Royal Power and to protect the kingdom against invasions. The main town (a medieval village) was inside the Fortress and it is called Aigues-Mortes and gave the Fortress its name. This town still exists nowadays and is part of southern cotemporary French society. Not Far (2 hours) from the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_4" style="border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;French Riviera&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; and 1 hour from Marseille a 6 million people city.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41U0cunHpI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/_22TSfS0Ep0/s320/aout+016.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;With the revocation of the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_5" style="border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Edict of Nantes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;in 1685 protestant worship was forbidden&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_6"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;. Those who continued were arrested. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;So that was the fate of Durand Family&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;One by one &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;they were arrested because they organized unlawful secret home services. Marie’s mother was the first one arrested when Marie was only 4 years old, she would never saw her mother again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41URJGqmcI/AAAAAAAAAJk/lH1Rw0oNytM/s1600-h/aout+032.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41URJGqmcI/AAAAAAAAAJk/lH1Rw0oNytM/s320/aout+032.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5444100178039183810" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Later his brother, Pierre Durand became a pastor like his father and broke the law too organizing secret home services, he was unsuccessfully hunted by local authorities. So the authorities decided to take revenge again on her family. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;His Father Etienne Durand was imprisoned in 1728. Looking for protection and following her father advise married at an early age she married &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;to Matthieu Serres, his father friend. In 1730 Matthieu Serres was imprisoned too. Finally his brother Pierre was caught and hanged in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_7" style="border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;April 22&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, 1732, when he was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_8"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;thirty years&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; old&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Following this,Marie Durand was imprisoned with many other women who would refused to give up their beliefs. Authorities only asked them to knee in front of an image in order to be relief. Yet they did not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;The captivity of Mary Durand lasted 38 years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; Imprisoned with other &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Women of all ages and all conditions, she lived in poverty and restricted conditions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;It has been found in a room on the tower stone walls, carved the word "RESISTER" (To Resist) Tradition says it was Maria's cells. So she wrote it to encourage herself and gear her companions not to give up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; Whether she carved it or not. It is a symbol of these women spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Maria as most of these women was a restless prisoner, refusing to recant her faith, exhorting his companions to be strong and writing numerous letters, petitions &lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;asking for justice, or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; letters of thanks &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;to those who sent relief&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;prisoners; letters to Pastors, friends and members of her family.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;In January 1767, Prince Beauvau, governor of Languedoc, visit the Tower, he&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;was appalled and shocked by the plight of women still imprisoned and released them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;A minister of King &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Louis XV's attempted to oppose it but after more than 80 years of religious hate the country was tired and ashamed. Fourteen women were released, one of them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, Marie Robert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, had been imprisoned 41 years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Marie Durand was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;released&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1267553082_9" style="border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;April 14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, 1768 and it was not until December 26, 1768 for the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;last two prisoners are released.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Marie Durand died at his birthplace at Bouchet-of-Pranles in 1776.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Protestant History has men and women that should inspired us with their strength as first Christians did, as many do today in persecuted churches. From our comfortable sites and PC and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; smart phones&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;, and blogs etc etc Let's not forget them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="text-align: center;margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=" ;color:black;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41Ua06In8I/AAAAAAAAAJs/i9OZB6CM0AU/s320/aout+009.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxecxmsonormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=" ;color:black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-1746019757504747855?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/1746019757504747855/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2010/03/marie-durand-resister-protestant.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/1746019757504747855'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/1746019757504747855'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2010/03/marie-durand-resister-protestant.html' title='Marie Durand; Resister!! Protestant Heritage'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/S41Wb23TzyI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/KUT5jv3DBAQ/s72-c/aout+007.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-4861843214034501298</id><published>2010-01-20T22:29:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2010-01-20T23:21:25.729+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Latin American theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><title type='text'>Samuel Escobar: on Latin American Churchs</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'lucida grande', verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12;"&gt;&lt;h3 style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 4px; FONT: bold 14px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;Samuel Escobar, is native of Peru (my country land) and he is a leading Latin American theologian. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;Part of the same generation of Rene Padilla, he was part of the first young generation touched by John A Mackay teachings. I had the chance to participate at some of his conferances when I was young Chrsitian student back in Peru. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;He is one of my references on my theology thinking structure. He was one of the key participants in the International Congress on World Evangelization at Lausanne, Switzerland, in 1974. I think is currently serves as professor of missiology at Palmer Theological Seminary in Wynnewood, Pennsylvania, and as theological consultant for the Board of International Ministries in Valencia, Spain. He is also president of the United Bible Societies and past president of the International Fellowship of Evangelical Students. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;Here he give us a little inside on Latin Amercan Churches. I find his thought very accurate and and helps us to understand Latin American Christian way of living faith.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" align="center"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eUZ8wgnb_Qk&amp;amp;hl=" width="425" height="344" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" fs="1&amp;amp;" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; FONT: 12px/20px 'lucida grande', verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-4861843214034501298?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/4861843214034501298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2010/01/samuel-escobar-in-latin-american.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/4861843214034501298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/4861843214034501298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2010/01/samuel-escobar-in-latin-american.html' title='Samuel Escobar: on Latin American Churchs'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-182142357370285111</id><published>2009-12-29T11:26:00.014+01:00</published><updated>2010-01-21T04:42:21.089+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='My Sermons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><title type='text'>Christmas in Paris.. just a meditation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SznaFYUeeTI/AAAAAAAAAIY/BE1AFr4fBHc/s1600-h/m-Champs_Elys_es21.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SznaFYUeeTI/AAAAAAAAAIY/BE1AFr4fBHc/s320/m-Champs_Elys_es21.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5420603412479637810" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;After only 4 years in &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_0"&gt;Canada&lt;/span&gt;, and already 14 years in &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_1"&gt;Europe&lt;/span&gt; some North American Christian traditions are still strong to me. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Although Candles services are originally from Europe, they are almost forgotten in France.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I still remember with emotion the lovely Candle services at the Wolfville Baptiste Church, the town church that hosted me during my 4 years in Canada. . The main goal of candle services, to stop and think about the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_2"&gt;true meaning of Christmas&lt;/span&gt;, was reached beautifully each 24&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; of December. As a forerigner this is an unforgottable memory for me.I am a reformed hearted fellow but I really enjoyed my 4 Baptists years in Canada. I miss that lovely church I hope I will be able to visite them again one day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;So 14 years later I am an elder in a little and humble &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_3"&gt;Evangelical Reformed local church&lt;/span&gt; in the south of &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_4"&gt;Paris&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Unlike &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_5"&gt;Wolfville&lt;/span&gt; in NS Canada which is a 4000 people lovely town, Paris and its suburbs are 20 million people!!. In Wolfville the 24&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; of December we smiled people warmly at the streets, most of them would already had finished  a day before their shopping, and a few of them who hadn't yet, they would  finished it way before 5h00 pm, at 5h30 pm every thing was closed and every body went home, so we took hot chocolate or a cappuchino and enjoyed the first snow flakes. At that season Canadians don't call it "snow", they call it "White Christmas."  So we just enjoyed the season feelings and prepared ourselves for a lovely Candle Services at 7h00 pm.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Paris the 24&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; of December is just awful, and up 50% or probably 70% of  Parisians are still buying their presents until midnight. Shops are crowded, and streets are jammed. There is a little probability of snow, yet it is very cold outside, moisty cold. People are stressed and very distracted, and it goes like that until probably 8h00 pm or later. Oddly enough Paris had snow this year, but a week early, and the 24th it had  already melted and  we had only plain cold rain  :-( &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;So a candle service in Paris can have too a &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;deep meaning; to stop our rushness and to think about the true meaning of Christmas. So I started candle services traditions at my church  almost 7 years ago, and although we do not follow the same North American style, year after year &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;a small crowd of our church manages to challenge trafique jams, crowed streets and last minute shopping and come at 7h00 to sing, pray and praise the Lord and to remember the true mining of &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_7"&gt;Christmas&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;So I had the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_8"&gt;Christmas Eve &lt;/span&gt;mediation privilege and again we read Luke history of nativity for a thousand time, yet  a thousand time later three phrases will never ever stop to amaze me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Luke 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style=" ;font-family:Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;·&lt;span&gt; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;7)&lt;/span&gt;….&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; and wrapped him in swaddling clothes,....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Like any child… like any human child…. God almighty became flesh and as any baby He&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;was wrapped in swaddling clothes. How can we sometimes forguet the awe of Christmas? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style=" ;font-family:Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;·&lt;span&gt; (&lt;b&gt;7)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;…….. and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;There was no room for him!!!! I wonder if now days He has room in our Christmas, in our life, in our schedules, in our logics, in our way of being Christians!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span style=" ;font-family:Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;·&lt;span&gt; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;15) t&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;he shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The good news was addressed first to simple people, forgotten and outcasted people. Shepards were indeed the lowest class popiluation of their time, poor, ignorants, illiterates, impure and unworthy to be part religious life of their time. Indeed forgotten people of their time doing and unworthy job. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Would I be part of these people at the time? would I  be part of the first people that God had choosen to deliver the first good news? and if so I wonder if  I had probably missed the whole thing stuck in &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_9"&gt;traffic jam!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I love buying presents and I love giving them. I get caught  in my feelings when my kid opens his presents and loves them, I love my huge natural Christmas tree that I buy each year since my Canadian days between 2m and 3 m)  I am proud of all the Christmas lights I set up at home. I do love all these things...  Yet I should never forget these three messages that Luke story tells us of the fist Christmas . Otherwise, I will just miss the whole point just as if I would spent my whole Christmas in a Parisian &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_10"&gt;traffic jam. Lots of light, lots of noise... even lots of beautiful things to see outside in the street, yet a stressful, useless and meaningless waste of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1262082510_10"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-182142357370285111?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/182142357370285111/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/12/chritsmas-in-paris-just-meditation.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/182142357370285111'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/182142357370285111'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/12/chritsmas-in-paris-just-meditation.html' title='Christmas in Paris.. just a meditation'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SznaFYUeeTI/AAAAAAAAAIY/BE1AFr4fBHc/s72-c/m-Champs_Elys_es21.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-107977206748356353</id><published>2009-09-15T17:36:00.011+02:00</published><updated>2010-01-21T04:56:09.225+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Latin American theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>Theology from the balcony or  theology on the road?  John A. Mackay</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/Sq-1RP-D4uI/AAAAAAAAAH0/gOMKrcO4VXc/s1600-h/JMK.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 140px; height: 140px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/Sq-1RP-D4uI/AAAAAAAAAH0/gOMKrcO4VXc/s320/JMK.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381719387680269026" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_0"&gt;John Mackay&lt;/span&gt; may not be a common name for the English world today and he is a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;theologian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; almost unknown and forgotten  in this side of the Occidental world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Indeed, he is not an intelectual who is studied side to side to &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_1"&gt;Karl Barth&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_2"&gt;Paul Tillich&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_3"&gt;Abraham Kuyper&lt;/span&gt;.  Yet his thoughts have shaped a generation and his influence and thinking are still revolutioning churchs theologies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Contemporary Emerging Churches use Mission Integral theology as one of its references. Mission Integral is a theology developed by third world evangelical theologians who search to understand better the message of Jesus while struggling with political and criminal violence and poverty.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Mission Integral Theology is not an &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_4"&gt;emerging church&lt;/span&gt; product; it had and it has been  influencing it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The Paradox is that Mission Integral has its origin in the old &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_5"&gt;Calvinist&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_6"&gt;reformed theology&lt;/span&gt;, and in a humble calvinst unknow theologian.  Mission integral as we know it today was developed by a Presbyterian minister who lived in the first half of 2Oth Century . “Mr John A Mackay”.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He believed that announcing the kingdom coming had strong implications on our daily social interaction. And it was not reduced to some moral values (not do this, not to do that, not to be like this, not to be like that).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Samuel Escobar, Rene Padilla, and other &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_7"&gt;young folks&lt;/span&gt; of the following Latin American generation had all of them something in common. They all were deeply influenced by this sympathetic and brilliant Scottish fellow who arrived to Latin America (First to Peru) in the late 30's Mr John A. Mackay. He was almost &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_8"&gt;Thirty years&lt;/span&gt; old when he arrived to &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_9"&gt;Peru&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;He graduated from the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_10"&gt;University of Aberdeen&lt;/span&gt; with First Class Honors in Philosophy and later he ventured across the ocean to &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_11"&gt;Princeton Theological Seminary&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:medium;"&gt;Returning to Europe the First War caught him and he went to &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_12"&gt;Spain&lt;/span&gt; before the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_13"&gt;Spanish revolution&lt;/span&gt;. He was very intrigued by the Spanish culture and in particularly of a Spanish Poet&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_14"&gt;Miguel de Unamuno&lt;/span&gt;, the Spanish existentialist who, before many others, had discovered and written about Kierkegaard. It was the beginning of a love affair with the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_15"&gt;Hispanic culture&lt;/span&gt; to which he would be devoted throughout his whole life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;In Peru he and his wife founded a Protestant school, now known as the “Colegio San Andres”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;His thoughts, his influence over Political leaders, his philosophy challenged traditional catholique elitist &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_16"&gt;Latin America&lt;/span&gt; Spanish structures. John Mackay was quickly indentified as a voice that would challenge&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;establishment from a protestant christian point of view.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;John Mackay was invited to occupy the chair of Philosophy in the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_17"&gt;National University of San Marcos&lt;/span&gt;. The &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_18"&gt;Oldest University&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_19"&gt;South America&lt;/span&gt;, founded in 1551 by the Spanish and symbol old Intellectual Elites&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;So he was the first Protestant to be appointed to such an academic position, and probably the &lt;b&gt;only one until today&lt;/b&gt;. In this reknowned university, later he was honored by an award of the "Palmas Magisteriales" by the Peruvian government for John Mackay's contribution to education.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Under special assignment with the South American Federation of the YMCA, he began to lecture and write first in Uruguay and then in &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_20"&gt;Mexico&lt;/span&gt;. He was appointed a member of the Board of Foreign Missions of the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_21"&gt;Presbyterian Church&lt;/span&gt; with general oversight of Latin America and Africa. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;John Mackay was called in 1936 to the presidency of Princeton Seminary, where he served for twenty-three years not only as President, but as Professor of Ecumenics, the first such designated chair in an American seminary. It was a time of theological crises, Division between liberals, traditionalist, reformed, evangelical etc etc &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;John Mackay managed the situation with passion for the gospel, deep belief on the mission and deep understanding and respect for&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;each reality he established an environment of orthodox openness and dialogue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;His long and distinguished career was still long and distinguished by: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Head of &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;the Commission on the &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_22"&gt;Universal Church&lt;/span&gt; and the World of Nations at the Oxford Conference in 1937, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Member of the Central, Committee of the &lt;span style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_23"&gt;World Council of Churches&lt;/span&gt; (1948-1954)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;President of the American Association of Theological Schools (1945-1950)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Chairman of the International Missionary Council (1947-1958), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_24"&gt;President of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches&lt;/span&gt; (1954-1959).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Moderator of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the USA in 1953. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;After his retirement from &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_25"&gt;Princeton&lt;/span&gt;, he taught at the &lt;span style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_26"&gt;American University&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_27"&gt;Washington&lt;/span&gt; as &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_28"&gt;Adjunct Professor&lt;/span&gt; of Hispanic Thought.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_29"&gt;Latin America&lt;/span&gt; and Hispanic culture were his passions All his assignment on the international &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;scene were remarkably well accomplished. He lived through the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_30"&gt;second war&lt;/span&gt; and the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_31"&gt;cold war Time&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;A Young Latin American generation growed up reading his books, listening his lectures. He challenged these young Intellectual Christian to make Theology on the road on their own and not repeat old ways from the balcony. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;He would encourage them on a very Kierkegaarian way to embrace the paradox. To understand their cultural past, to live their present to project themselves to the future Kingdom coming&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;" "The End and the Beginning," "&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_32"&gt;The Way&lt;/span&gt; to Tomorrow Leads Through Yesterday."To fight with the idealism of Don Quixote but not being as naive as him and to rebuilt its own reality like &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_33"&gt;Robinson Crusoe&lt;/span&gt;, with out remaining a Robinson Cruseoe ", "to take the lead, &lt;b&gt;" not to conform themselves to the present time, but to seek the &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_34"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kingdom of God&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;He published thirteen books, three of which he wrote in Spanish. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In 1944, he founded and edited several reviews and wrote letter accusing social issue like markarturisme (see d "A Letter to &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_35"&gt;Presbyterians&lt;/span&gt;,)" calling for reasonable reflection.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;In the same vein, he repeatedly advocated open dialogue and summit meetings of political leaders for China, Russia, and the troubled areas of Latin America.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For him there was no conflict between proclaiming the kingdom coming and looking for peace among men. For him to search peace on earth was a prophetic announcement of the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_36"&gt;Kingdom Coming&lt;/span&gt;. If Americans are still discussing the good or the evil of &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1253029100_37"&gt;social gospel&lt;/span&gt;, and some of them are discovering  for good or bad emerging churches, Latin Americans Chrstians learned long time ago from John Mackay that the Mission was integral, teh Gospel was globale,  to preach the gospel was to announce now the Kingdom coming and that was more than words but concrete actions too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"  style="font-size:11;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Coming out of a small and very conservative&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Scottish Presbyterian church, John Mackay became a world-recognized spiritual ambassador.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;And the father of Latin American Mission Integral protestant thought.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-107977206748356353?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/107977206748356353/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/09/theology-from-balcony-or-theology-on_15.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/107977206748356353'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/107977206748356353'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/09/theology-from-balcony-or-theology-on_15.html' title='Theology from the balcony or  theology on the road?  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Mackay'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/Sq-1RP-D4uI/AAAAAAAAAH0/gOMKrcO4VXc/s72-c/JMK.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-3060424688646204840</id><published>2009-03-24T17:47:00.010+01:00</published><updated>2009-03-24T19:20:12.012+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>Why U2?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SckO3A04B1I/AAAAAAAAAHk/tarKo79xlys/s1600-h/joshua-tree.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 217px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SckO3A04B1I/AAAAAAAAAHk/tarKo79xlys/s320/joshua-tree.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5316797173364950866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From time to time I get a comment from a group of enlightened people who feels God has given them the mission to trash and insult U2 and prove that they blaspheme. They even have their Web site to trash them)&lt;br /&gt;I am a pretty open minded guy for a Reformed Christian (lol) I grow up on my faith within the Peruvian chapter of IVCF among many different Christian movements. I, myself always felt close to Presbyterians and Reformed faith and philosophy. Yet in Canada, while I was a student I was kindly hosted by a Fundamental Baptists Church who I dearly loved. Later when I finished school, come to France and joined adulthood, I felt the need f to join the institutional body of Christ so I naturally joined the Evangelical Reformed Church of France.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why am I telling you all this? Because through out time U2 music has given me companionship on my pilgrims progress. I discovered quite late "The Joshua Three."in 1993  It was my first year in Canada when&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;finally started to speak and understand a fair English.  It was a major discovery on my Christian life. There it was this rock band that wrote about life, faith and Jesus without complex and using a non orthodox Christian language. I loved it!!! I was 22 years old and "I still haven't found " became my prayer. I was already a deeply engaged Christian, I knew Jesus died for me, I knew He had a plan for me, I knew the kingdom will come and all the colors will bleed into one. Yet I was still running, I still hadn't found what I was looking for. These and other songs inspired me through my Christian life full of struggles, contradictions doubts, love, hanger, passion, falls etc.&lt;br /&gt;I have followed each U2 album and I have almost all his albums at home. I like all of them although I do not like all songs.&lt;br /&gt;Many Christians left U2 after Achtum Baby and criticize very much the two techno-Pop albums; "Zoorope" and "Pop". Yet I find in them a smart and a very elegant critique of Post Modern society . If you have these albums you will notice that each one tells a story. They all start with a first song that sets the mood, the following ones evolve in this mood and aim a final song which set a conclusion and a paradox.&lt;br /&gt;So Achtum Baby will start with ZOOstation, where U2 sings a Hymn to human nihilistic optimism " I'm ready!! Ready for the crash! I'm ready… " The album continues with wonderful and brilliant songs that explore nihilistic happyness and goes from happy and ecstatic moods to sad and depressive feelings full of contradictions and paradox. It ends with a confession of human powerless condition "love is blidness I dont wanna see"&lt;br /&gt;Something similar happens in the other two albums who moved from a classic rock style to a electro techno pop rock style. They follow the same pattern filled of contradictions and paradoxes.  Not easy to realize at first sight yet spiritual message is  evident for bible readers.&lt;br /&gt;Some times I wond&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SckVGw9eZtI/AAAAAAAAAHs/SBrfkxWrgQ8/s1600-h/wmtv.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 183px; height: 158px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SckVGw9eZtI/AAAAAAAAAHs/SBrfkxWrgQ8/s320/wmtv.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5316804041053726418" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;er if "Zooropa "and "Pop" were written only for Christians who have really spent time reading and understanding their Bibles. When deconstructing these albums we find biblical truth everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The world tours that presented these albums where amazing too. Bono performed and showed how evil was rooted in humanity and in post-modern society."Watch more TV!!! Bono would cry in scene while lighted posters would announce "there is no truth" . Nihilistic cyber postmodern society was represented and performed brilliantly by Bono .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"Uncertainty is a guiding star" says one of Bono songs;… and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I feel  numb &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Don’t protest&lt;br /&gt;Don’t guess&lt;br /&gt;Don’t bless&lt;br /&gt;Don’t rest&lt;br /&gt;Don’t act&lt;br /&gt;Detract&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; would answer the Edge song. U2 seemed to ask; "You want post modern relativism?"  and his character "Macphisto" and the "Fly"would joyfully answer  "..well , just have it baby !!!!!"&lt;br /&gt;Again last songs will hide the answer to absolute relativity .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Zooropa album describes an absolute relative world, everything is nothing, and nothing is for sure. The only truth is that there is no one, and even this is not true. So the first song "Zooropa" starts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(what do you want?)&lt;br /&gt;(what do you want?)&lt;br /&gt;Zooropa...vorsprung durch technik (a step ahead through technology)&lt;br /&gt;Zooropa...be all that you can be&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Be a winner&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After 9 songs of a pessimistic optimism, when every thing seem so irrelevant and so meaningless, the last song rises a voice of hope. Our good old Johnny Cash (his soul rest in peace) is the Wanderer, a cowboy who wanders on an apocalyptic post nuclear war city sings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I went out walking&lt;br /&gt;With a bible and a gun&lt;br /&gt;The word of God lay heavy on my heart&lt;br /&gt;I was sure I was the one&lt;br /&gt;Now Jesus, don't you wait up &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I'll be home soon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the middle of absolute relativity one voice rises, a very human voice, with the absolute certainty his faith gives him !!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;5 years later an even more psicodelic electronic and awesome album "Pop"; U2 seems to surrender to a virtual and relative existence in a society that promises us to keep us all happy!!…. Yet the last song calls us back to reallity  "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wake up dead man"!!!….. "Jesus Jesus help me I'm alone in this world and Fxxx up world it is" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You see U2 are not prophets, neither tele-évangelists, nor a "happy happy joy joy" Christian group. They are contemporary post modern poets  who happen to have a strong faith in Jesus! and they sing what they see, what they feel, what they fear and what they hope, what they pray. And if you are careful enough to read and understand their lyrics you will notice that they know more Bible than you may think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So before  accepting cheap "trashing U2", stop and spend some time to analyse and think for yourself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Who may have ears to listen.....just listen baby!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-3060424688646204840?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/3060424688646204840/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-u2.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3060424688646204840'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3060424688646204840'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-u2.html' title='Why U2?'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SckO3A04B1I/AAAAAAAAAHk/tarKo79xlys/s72-c/joshua-tree.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-728283182189962358</id><published>2009-03-11T19:56:00.011+01:00</published><updated>2009-03-27T12:06:52.162+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>New U2: Magnificent (Romans 8:29-31????)</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="295"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VEGOb48gIe4&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fBJqWPv7IGo&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fBJqWPv7IGo&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Magnificent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was born&lt;br /&gt;I was born to be with you&lt;br /&gt;In this space and time&lt;br /&gt;After that and ever after I haven't had a clue&lt;br /&gt;Only to break rhyme&lt;br /&gt;This foolishness can leave a heart black and blue&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only love, only love can leave such a mark&lt;br /&gt;But only love, only love can heal such a scar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was born&lt;br /&gt;I was born to sing for you&lt;br /&gt;I didn't have a choice but to lift you up&lt;br /&gt;And sing whatever song you wanted me to&lt;br /&gt;I give you back my voice&lt;br /&gt;From the womb my first cry, it was a joyful noise&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only love, only love can leave such a mark&lt;br /&gt;But only love, only love can heal such a scar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Justified till we die, you and I will magnify&lt;br /&gt;The Magnificent&lt;br /&gt;Magnificent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only love, only love can leave such a mark&lt;br /&gt;But only love, only love unites our hearts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Justified till we die, you and I will magnify&lt;br /&gt;The Magnificent&lt;br /&gt;Magnificent&lt;br /&gt;Magnificent    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;Romans 8:29-31 (King James Version)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.&lt;br /&gt;30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.&lt;br /&gt;31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-728283182189962358?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/728283182189962358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-u2-magnificent-romans-829-31.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/728283182189962358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/728283182189962358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-u2-magnificent-romans-829-31.html' title='New U2: Magnificent (Romans 8:29-31????)'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-6464130506410855743</id><published>2009-02-23T00:03:00.013+01:00</published><updated>2009-02-27T12:48:04.928+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='My Sermons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>A Ten Sleepy Virgins Story (part II)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Image from The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Protestant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Cathedral of Magdeburg&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; in Germany, Luther preached there in 1524 ;...the picture detail shows three of the foolish virgins )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SaHZ6-lh6GI/AAAAAAAAAGU/4y6p1KB1jD8/s1600-h/473px-ThreeFoolishVirginsMagdeburg.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 163px; height: 208px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SaHZ6-lh6GI/AAAAAAAAAGU/4y6p1KB1jD8/s320/473px-ThreeFoolishVirginsMagdeburg.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5305761443275204706" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;( FYI  this is the 2nd part of one of my sermons, &lt;a href="http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/sleppy-virgins-part-i.html"&gt;first part here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;...)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;II What the people who listened understood...   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main difficulty to understand this parable is our limited knowledge of historical context and cultural background. So to better put ourselves on Jesus public, we need to get a little insight on traditions of the time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, a traditional wedding at the time established that the broom had to arrive from his home (or his town) to join her future wife to celebrate the great feast at her place. (Let's remember that it is tradition for the parent's fiancée to be those who do the reception)Also tradition allowed the virgins of the village to be invited to the feast if they dressed in white and went to welcome the groom on the road. They had to bring along oil lamps that would light on the groom's arrival and accompanied him in a beautiful parade of lights until the fiancées door. They would probably even sing some joyful songs. It was indeed, a very beautiful tradition. Later the young virgins who embellished the procession with their lamps were invited to join the feasts. Here we have a simple and wonderful tradition that Jesus used to send a strong message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several points become clear, the virgins were not the fiancées (so polygamy was not even insinuated) they were asked to join the parade without merit, they were simply asked to escort the broom on beautiful way. For this they had to be a little patient and wait for him ready since they were unaware of the broom arrival hour. At his arrival, at anytime, they would light his lamps and honour his arrival with a beautiful parade of lights. A beautiful event, later they would join the feast without being original members of the family. They would not use her lamps anymore. So their lamps do not shine all night, only during the parade!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To whom Jesus said all these things? And why?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are on Matthew chapter 25, Jesus has already entered Jerusalem, they were apparently Tuesday before Easter, two days later he would be delivered to be crucified. Jesus was addressing his last messages.  His disciples, simple people, people from the countryside and instead preparing themselves for the upcoming events, they were fascinated and distracted by the City of Jerusalem and its buildings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we read in Mathieu 24 :1-3&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;   As Jesus went, out of the temple, his disciples came to him to point out the buildings. But he said to them: Do you see that? I say to you, it will not stay here stone upon which is not reversed.  He sat on the Mount of Olives. And the disciples came to him privately: Tell us, when this things will happen and what will be the signs of your coming and the end of the world?   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So throughout chapters 24 and 25, Jesus gave them a private explanation and an insight on the end of time. And we arrive to chapter 25 which has three parables that would describe the kingdom of God; The first parable (the good and the bad servant) has a clear message: Expect the Kingdom, while remaining on the will of God. On the third parable (the parable of the talents) the message is more troubling, it deserves a sermon in itself. Let's just say that Jesus calls us to overcome, to understand that God's will for us is to give fruit in abundance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the second? What is the message of the second? And who are these sleepy virgin?   Jesus. He said: Then the kingdom of heaven is like ten virgins who took their lamps, went to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish and five wise.   The sentence is clear; the kingdom of heaven is a clear reference to the ten virgins.&lt;br /&gt;For the audience, Jesus' close disciples, the message of the Ten Virgins sleeping is partially clear. His public may have even laughed at the stupidity of girls leaving the village without bringing along enough oil, or not oil at all (verse 3) Only part of those who follow Jesus would wait for the kingdom properly prepared. The lamp and the oil are secondary images to enhance the care of once and neglecting of the others. For the disciples, it was a clear call for wisdom when expecting the Kingdom! But wisdom started before the waiting itself, and the foolishness too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if the message to them was apparently clear, it is only partially, because at that time, many things were not revealed to them yet. So in light of the following events and the word of God ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;III What would Jesus wants us to understand "today"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... to be continue&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-6464130506410855743?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/6464130506410855743/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/ten-sleepy-virgins-story-part-i_23.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/6464130506410855743'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/6464130506410855743'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/ten-sleepy-virgins-story-part-i_23.html' title='A Ten Sleepy Virgins Story (part II)'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SaHZ6-lh6GI/AAAAAAAAAGU/4y6p1KB1jD8/s72-c/473px-ThreeFoolishVirginsMagdeburg.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-8200132940804309704</id><published>2009-02-12T16:22:00.023+01:00</published><updated>2009-02-14T10:22:11.378+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>French Deconstruction</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SZRPCeQAE_I/AAAAAAAAAFs/uEh1fXyR5Eo/s1600-h/harry.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 262px; height: 367px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SZRPCeQAE_I/AAAAAAAAAFs/uEh1fXyR5Eo/s400/harry.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5301949565220426738" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is interesting how  post modernism and deconstruction are so often associated with French Culture. Indeed the two main Post Modern Philosopher  are French (Derrida and Foucault) Yet that's all you will get as French Post Modern Culture.&lt;br /&gt;Truth is that they are only know in France by an "Intellectual Elite" and mostly from Political Sciences circles.&lt;br /&gt;Actually for French people, and I mean well educated French,  Postmodern philosophy is not known at all, not even discussed. They just do not bother to learn about it.&lt;br /&gt;Actually they are still more concern about Decartes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning at work I was amused in how one of my colleges played so often with his French words and  I said "I like the way you deconstruct your own language." Every body around me (all French) laughed thinking I had just invented a new word.&lt;br /&gt;They were very surprised to know (through Wikipedia) that the word actually existed in French .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is interesting too is the Wikipedia French definition of&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9construction"&gt; "Déconstruction"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic; text-align: left;"&gt;"&lt;b style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;La déconstruction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; est une méthode, voire une école, &lt;/span&gt;de la philosophie contemporaine.   etc etc ect "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At first, no association at all with the Post Modern school. (Neither the English version does)  Later, it says that Heidegger uses it and only at the end it says that it is Derrida who systematizes it. Yet it does explain that "deconstruction" was associated to  Post Modernism in US as well as the British Analytic Philosophy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;".... obtint une &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;grande notoriété aux États-Unis&lt;/span&gt;, où il est&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; assimilé à&lt;/span&gt; la philosophie postmoderne,"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Otherwise the French article does not associates it at all to French main philosophies,  it only fills hardly three pages and it gives very few references. Yet the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction"&gt;English wikipedia article,&lt;/a&gt; an impressive and complete essay, fills almost 20 pages and gives us so many references.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Post Modern culture and deconstruction are not part of French life, and even well educated French scholars ignore it or understated it in a different way as The English cultures do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For example the Woody Allen Film "Deconstructing Harry" was translated in French&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Harry dans tous ses états"&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;something lik&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;e "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Harry in all his moods" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;so it could make sense to French auditors. Woddy Allen is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;loved and admired in France, but "deconstruction"... well it is just ignored.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So when I say that I am Post Modern Protestant in Paris, it may not mean what you think it means, or perhaps it does. You better deconstruct it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;For another similar experience read&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" href="http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/american-chrsitian-in-france-on.html"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-8200132940804309704?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/8200132940804309704/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/french-deconstracction.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8200132940804309704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8200132940804309704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/french-deconstracction.html' title='French Deconstruction'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SZRPCeQAE_I/AAAAAAAAAFs/uEh1fXyR5Eo/s72-c/harry.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-522904931353175409</id><published>2009-02-03T21:07:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2009-02-03T21:31:42.832+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>Five reasons that Calvin was a postmodernist - well not quite</title><content type='html'>&lt;span&gt;I love this post I have found Down Under ( An Australian Anglican)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ironically I  think "point 5" may be "inexact" &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/american-chrsitian-in-france-on.html"&gt;(read here for an American in France on PostModernism &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) Yet he may be right. I will post later my own thoughts on Postmodernism and French culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a footnote (or headnote?) I am a calvinist on a very French way. I still have a hard time to understand somme Dutch or English calvinist. I always wonder if some calvinist are more Calivinist than Jean Calvin. This is one of the reasons I like the open minded approach of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Michael Jenses&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/"&gt;. &lt;/a&gt;His  post is clever and original&lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/"&gt; Michael Jenses &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;img alt="My Photo" class="profile-img" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_7MCJoc69JdU/Rjw1FM5aVAI/AAAAAAAAADA/KxEffLkVCeo/s320/Picture+083.jpg" width="54" height="80" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is a Doctor on Martyrdom and a teachear of  Christian Doctrine at Moore College, all the way in Sideny Australia. He has another clever article on Jean Calvin too.  &lt;a href="http://mpjensen.blogspot.com/2009/01/calvins-hermeneutics-today.html"&gt;Have a look&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;ol style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Calvin thought author's intentions were not decisive for interpretation, though not irrelevant. You can't understand biblical prophecy if you are wedded to author's intentions! In fact, it was the Enlightenment that was obsessed with origins and psychological states, not the Reformation. The text is to be understood with reference to its self, primarily.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Calvin recognised that texts produced a multiplicity of possible meanings depending on context and purpose - because he believed that the text was speaking to us today, and had spoken to people in the past. The text has a tradition of interpretation that is not irrelevant to understanding it. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;But Calvin's not an allegorist - he believes in history, of which we are a part. He doesn't seek 'eternal spiritual truths' from the text. Rather, he is aware of its time-boundedness. So, NARRATIVE is really important for him&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;He thinks hermeneutics has a context - ie, it serves an interpretative community. 'Who is this &lt;em&gt;for?' &lt;/em&gt;is a question that really matters for the interpreter.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;He was French -so must have been a postmodern!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-522904931353175409?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/522904931353175409/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/five-reasons-that-calvin-was.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/522904931353175409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/522904931353175409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/five-reasons-that-calvin-was.html' title='Five reasons that Calvin was a postmodernist - well not quite'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7MCJoc69JdU/Rjw1FM5aVAI/AAAAAAAAADA/KxEffLkVCeo/s72-c/Picture+083.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-3057545231827643767</id><published>2009-02-01T21:33:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2009-02-02T07:04:57.205+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>The Museum of  Protestants History .</title><content type='html'>I become a Protestant when I was still in South America (Peru). It has been 18 years walking this path. Coming from the Americas sometimes we feel as if faith started with us.  Being in France has given me a sense of History. I have discoverd my roots and I am always in admiration of these men that changed history and struggled so we can live freely our faiths today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you come to France  make sure you take your time to go to the South (sorry, not the Frecnh Riviera, but the Cevennes) and visit &lt;span class="caractencadre-spip"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.museedudesert.com/"&gt;&lt;strong class="spip"&gt;The DESERT MUSEUM&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  The&lt;/span&gt; Cévennes is a southern      French region , I think 700 km from Paris, with a rich history of protestantism. Most of Historical French Reformed Evangelical Churchs are based in these regions (and in the south east of this region.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="width: 200px; height: 201px;" src="http://www.espace-cevennes.com/images/carte-cevennes-france.gif" usemap="#Map" border="0" /&gt;&lt;span class="caractencadre-spip"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.museedudesert.com/"&gt;&lt;strong class="spip"&gt;The DESERT MUSEUM&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; brings to life the Huguenot past and the history of the Camisards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Why "The Desert"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;In the history of French Protestantism, the expression &lt;i class="spip"&gt;Desert&lt;/i&gt; defines the period of time between the Revocation of the &lt;a href="http://www.museedudesert.com/article5768.html" class="spip_in" hreflang="en" title=""&gt;Edict of Nantes&lt;/a&gt; (1685) and the French Revolution (1789).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;Deprived of freedom of worship, far from the cities, hidden in isolated areas, deserts (in the wilderness, forests, caves, or gullies…), where the Protestants in France (in the Cevennes, but also in Haut-Languedoc, in Poitou, Dauphiné, Vivarais…) were obligated to live out their faith in hiding.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;The word &lt;i class="spip"&gt;Desert&lt;/i&gt; also had a biblical sense for them, the 40 years the Hebrew people of Exodus wandered in the desert, a place of tribulations, temptations and despair, but also where they would hear the word of the Lord.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;This chapter of history touches all of France, but specifically the Languedoc region and the Cevennes, where Protestantism was largely established at the beginning of the XVIth century.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="spip_document_29 spip_documents spip_documents_right" style="float: right;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/IMG/gif/musee.gif" alt="Entrée du Musée du Désert" title="Entrée du Musée du Désert" width="113" height="155" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;h3&gt;The Museum Specifically :&lt;/h3&gt;   &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; The ‘Desert’ period (1685-1789), from the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes to the French Revolution.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; The Camisards war&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; Persecutions and resistance.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; The clandestine life.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; The long road to freedom of conscience achieved at the French Revolution.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;It also intends to bear testimony to Protestant faithfulness.&lt;/h3&gt;   &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;Through fifteen rooms, the Desert Museum presents the following :&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; Antique furniture and domestic objects from the Cevennes : costumes from the era, a fully equipped authentic XVIIIth century kitchen, products that are grown and fabricated in the region.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; A reconstitution of a family evening in the Cevennes.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; Original weapons and hand-drawn maps from the Camisards war.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; Hiding places for hunted men and forbidden books.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; Authentic documents, manuscripts and prints ; official letters and decrees from the royal powers.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; Clandestine pulpits, communion cups, birth and marriage certificates.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; An impressive collection of Bibles and Psalters.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.museedudesert.com/dist/puce.gif" alt="-" width="8" height="11" /&gt; A large collection of paintings and prints.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="spip" align="justify"&gt;This information is taken directly from its &lt;a href="http://www.museedudesert.com/"&gt;web site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-3057545231827643767?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/3057545231827643767/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/museum-for-history-of-protestant-people.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3057545231827643767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3057545231827643767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/02/museum-for-history-of-protestant-people.html' title='The Museum of  Protestants History .'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-3016600762087862301</id><published>2009-01-26T23:49:00.022+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-27T08:57:39.113+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='My Sermons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>A Ten  Sleepy Virgins  Story (part I)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;The 30&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: courier new;"&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt; of November 2008 was the first Sunday of Advent and I had the privilege to preach at my &lt;a href="http://www.ere-massy-antony.org/"&gt;local church&lt;/a&gt;. I used a simple method of inductive deconstruction on my Bible analisys that I hope you may find useful…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;I will post here a simplified version of my sermon in three parts but you have the complete French version at my &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: courier new;" href="http://www.ere-massy-antony.org/predications/2008-11-30.pdf"&gt;Church site here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The word "Advent" comes from the Latin Adventus, "the comming". Today, and that is since the VI century, The Advent has become synonymous of preparations for Christmas celebrations “the coming of Jesus Child”. Yet the term "coming/advent” remains deliberately ambiguous.&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SX5PJ9Xh4GI/AAAAAAAAAFk/yrBjaoa_3sc/s1600-h/cathedral.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 143px; height: 137px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SX5PJ9Xh4GI/AAAAAAAAAFk/yrBjaoa_3sc/s400/cathedral.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5295757244344950882" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning I will use the parable of the ten virgins, because I want to rediscover with you the spirit of Advent, the preparation for the coming of our Lord in the same spirit of our fathers of the early church.&lt;br /&gt;I will use a simple Bible study methodologyto re-read this parable, I call it, in a very colourful way: "the three-dimensional approach" because it allows us to approach the Word of God from three different perspectives:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a). What I understand at my first reading? What is the message that I find, and what I do, and I do not understand?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;b). What the people who heard these words understood at the time?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c). What God really wants me/us/you to understand today?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;a) - What I understand ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The parable of the Ten Virgins always has challenged me throughout my life. Why 5 foolish and 5 wises? Why? Where am I in this parable? What is the real difference between the wise and the foolish? After all, the 10 virgins were all in a waiting mode, aren’t they? Am I on a waiting mode? Am I Wise? Or foolish?&lt;br /&gt;Even more, I always found hard the response of the bridegroom: "I do not know you." And I am stunned with the wise virgins response to the demand for oil of their fellow foolish virgins &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;"rather go to those who sell and buy-in for you”’. It is hard not to feel a kind of sadness for the foolish virgins and even fear ... and if we were one of the foolish virgins?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The traditional interpretation of this parable is based on the spiritualisation of the oil and the lamp. The oil is associated to the "Holy Spirit", the wise virgins keep “extra oil”. When the groom arrives only those who still have oil, so "The Holy Spirit", and kept their lights on are accepted at the wedding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore: the moral of this story would be: “keep your lights on!, Be always filled with the Holy Spirit”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the main problem of this “beautiful interpretation” is that even if it is very spiritual, and somehow reassuring, it leaves many questions unanswered, and even worst, it opens up new questions!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. If the oil runs out of foolish virgins. Can we say that it is possible that the Holy Spirit once given it may run out later?Can the Holy  Spiriy be used it up?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The wise virgins had brought an extra ration of oil ... so the parable not only opens the door to a concept of different levels of Holy Spirit. But also to the idea that some Christians may have a ration of the Holy Spirit, that is so low and insufficient to qualify them to the &lt;span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1233010109_4"&gt;Kingdom of God&lt;/span&gt; . &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. If the oil is the Holy Spirit, why the response of the wise virgins is "rather go to those who sell and buy-in for you?”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why they do not say: "go and ask the Groom before He arrives!!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. If the 5 wise virgins had an extra ration of oil, therefore the Holy Spirit, why do they fall asleep too? Is falling asleep actually a fault?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. If the groom had arrived some hours earlier, the foolish would still have had the Holy Spirit. Then they would be accepted at the wedding and they would no longer be considered foolish. So it is the delay of the groom who condemned them! (is this Biblical?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there are still many other question that the parable opens that remain unanswered:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Who are these ten virgins? Will they&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;marry the groom? Is this an openness to polygamy?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Jesus begins the parable with the sentence: "Then the kingdom of heaven is like..." What or who is the &lt;span style="border-bottom: medium none; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1233010109_5"&gt;Kingdom   of God&lt;/span&gt; in this parable?, The wedding? The coming of the groom? The virgins? The wise and the foolish?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Why do they fall asleep? What difference makes that they are asleep or awake? After all, even awake, given  the groom's delay, the follish will not be ready because they do not have enough oil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Why are they called there foolish? Why this name? Why "Foolish"?&lt;br /&gt;lets see the&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"   lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;b)What the people who heard these words understood at the time?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"   lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span&gt;............ to be continue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-3016600762087862301?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/3016600762087862301/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/sleppy-virgins-part-i.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3016600762087862301'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3016600762087862301'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/sleppy-virgins-part-i.html' title='A Ten  Sleepy Virgins  Story (part I)'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SX5PJ9Xh4GI/AAAAAAAAAFk/yrBjaoa_3sc/s72-c/cathedral.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-7006270280170525073</id><published>2009-01-21T00:28:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-27T00:16:56.643+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Give peace a chance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>A prayer was answerd!!!</title><content type='html'>As most of the world, I spent  part of my day watching Obama on TV and reading  news on him. I am cought on the emotion and going back and forward some christian blogs posts in him I crossed this article.&lt;br /&gt;I loved it so I brough it for you. My best wishes to the people of America, may the Lord bless you and your new president.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img alt="Anthony Smith" src="http://postmodernegro.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/anthonysmithheadshotsmall.jpg" width="200" height="150" /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia,sans-serif;"&gt;Anthony Smith forme  Charlotte, N.C.  wrotte this article on his blogs &lt;a href="http://postmodernegro.wordpress.com/"&gt;"musing of a postmodern negro"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He is part of the  &lt;a href="http://indieallies.meetup.com/27" target="_blank"&gt;Charlotte Emergent cohort&lt;/a&gt; and a member of the &lt;a href="http://emergentvillage.com/about-information/emergent-village-coordinating-group" target="_blank"&gt;Emergent Village Coordinating Group&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia,sans-serif;"&gt;to Contact him:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:postmodernegro@gmail.com"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:85%;"  &gt;postmodernegro@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;Today we stumble upon a historical moment. The United States of America will swear into office the first black President, Barack Obama. I haven’t blogged much on this because I have been at a lost for words to describe how I’ve felt over the past several months. While there is still much work to be done in the area of racial justice in our country no one can deny that this is another major turning point in our history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve learned from prophetic theologians like Stanley Hauerwas that my love for this country should be a Christ-shaped love.  Not an idolatrous pride in nation-state boundaries conjured up by the human political imagination. But I cannot help but feel a sense of pride today.  Mainly for my oldest son Isaiah Smith. He is a trumpeter in the Harding University High School marching band. Their band will be marching for the incoming president during the inauguration ceremonies. Their journey to this point is a story in and of itself. The fundraising for the kids to go to D.C., the practices, the new music he had to learn, and the deep history lessons they have received from those in our community who lived through the Civil Rights era. I recall one conversation I had with his English teacher, Ms. Robertson. She tearfully described how proud she was of the youth headed up for this historical moment. For many Americans this will be a surreal moment. I never imagined I’d see this day. I can say today that I have a sense of joy of what is taking place before our eyes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In prayer this morning I could almost hear the prayers and cries of African slaves:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How long O’Lord will you withhold justice from us!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that today we will be witnessing God answering their prayers for justice. For sure it is one answer in a long stream of answers that have come and yet to come but it is an answer nonetheless. This answer is really big. Just the symbolic nature of this event alone will briefly interrupt deeply entrenched racial narratives that operate on an unconscious level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel a change has and is taking place in our country. I sense a momentum of hope swelling up in the hearts of people. I pray that this bi-partisan spirit take hold of our political, religious, and economic leaders in a way that will be unprecedented.  I feel a change a comin’. God’s grace and peace be with us all.&lt;br /&gt;Published in:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;on January 20, 2009 at 2:40 pm&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-7006270280170525073?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/7006270280170525073/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/prayer-was-answerd.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7006270280170525073'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7006270280170525073'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/prayer-was-answerd.html' title='A prayer was answerd!!!'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-4709541886248792132</id><published>2009-01-19T22:54:00.013+01:00</published><updated>2009-02-14T09:54:35.732+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>An American Christian in France on "Emerging in France"</title><content type='html'>&lt;h3 style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(51, 0, 0);" class="entry-header"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; I enjoyed reading Matts experience on PostModernism.  I will probably write some other time about my own experince as post modern Chrisitian in Paris.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 style="color: rgb(51, 0, 0);" class="entry-header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Matt is an American  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" &gt;that has a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://endirect.blogs.com/endirect/"&gt; blog called "endirect"&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;h3 style="color: rgb(51, 0, 0);" class="entry-header"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Married to a beautiful French woman, we have three children and I'm working in France trying to figure out how to be the church that God intends".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;He writes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 0, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://endirect.blogs.com/about.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 150px; height: 150px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SXT64wHXZgI/AAAAAAAAAFc/vlKllGM5OE8/s400/matt.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5293131314962589186" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 0, 0);"&gt;I have not met Matt yet. He lives in Grenoble (around 400 km from Paris I think.. but he is only 30 km from Alpine sky stations.. lucky fellow) and  I like his&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 0, 0);" href="http://endirect.blogs.com/endirect/"&gt; Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 0, 0);"&gt; , I hope he will keep writing and sharing his experiences.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="entry-header"&gt;Emerging in France part 2&lt;/h3&gt;    &lt;div class="entry-content"&gt;   &lt;div class="entry-body"&gt;    &lt;p&gt;About 8 years ago I started reading about the whole post-modern thing. A friend had given me a copy of Middleton and Walsh's, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://ivpress.gospelcom.net/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=1856"&gt;truth is stranger than it used to be&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. And I started down the rabbit hole... I also found on my shelves Thomas C. Oden's, &lt;em&gt;two worlds, notes on the death of modernity in america and russia. &lt;/em&gt;It's a pretty good read though it looks like it's out of print...&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Anyway I got all excited when I realized that I was living in the country that gave birth to a lot of postmodern thought... So I formulated a hypothesis: France would be a great place to test out the ideas of the post-modern, now emerging church, crowd's ideas. That was a faux piste as we say in French and ultimately a dead-end.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;          &lt;div class="entry-more"&gt;     &lt;p&gt;I got a first indication of this in the fall of 2001. I was invited to speak at a coupl of church weekends about the church in relation to the world today. I was planning on talking about the pre-modern/modern/post-modern transistions and the impact that has had on the way we do church. Then finishing up with what is postmodernity.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Once I got through my material my audience gave out a collective yawn. Now there was certainly a bit of my own inadequacies and inexperience that played into their boredom but it went much deeper.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Their "so-what" reaction is indicative of a lot what I've seen in France. They have a sort of intellectual detachment in relation to this kind of stuff. The understand it but aren't too bothered to go over the past and do sort of autopsy. They are general more concerned with what needs to happen today, not what happen in the past or what's going to happen in the future. They live in the moment. The "No" vote is a good indication of this. The no wasn't about what the European Union had done to this point or what it would do. It was about a lot of disatisfaction with the way things are today and the present government.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;What I didn't know then is the truth that the American expression of post-modern/emerging church talk is dripping with the American cultural identity. And while France has a huge intellectual heritage in this matter what's happening on the ground is very different.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;When you think about it this all very normal.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;So if you come to France you looking for the "emerging church" thinking it'll look like something you've already seen you'll be looking for awhile.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;        &lt;/div&gt;        &lt;p class="entry-footer-info"&gt;     &lt;a href="http://endirect.blogs.com/endirect/2005/06/emerging_in_fra.html"&gt;&lt;span class="post-footers"&gt;June 02, 2005 Endirect&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-4709541886248792132?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/4709541886248792132/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/american-chrsitian-in-france-on.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/4709541886248792132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/4709541886248792132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/american-chrsitian-in-france-on.html' title='An American Christian in France on &quot;Emerging in France&quot;'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SXT64wHXZgI/AAAAAAAAAFc/vlKllGM5OE8/s72-c/matt.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-5259624928428508283</id><published>2009-01-16T17:21:00.013+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-27T00:17:54.416+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Give peace a chance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>Martin Buber; an Existentialist Jewish  that had a dream</title><content type='html'>Theologian, philosopher, and political radical, Martin Buber (1878–1965) was actively committed to a fundamental economic and political reconstruction of society as well as the pursuit of international peace. In his voluminous writings on Arab-Jewish relations in Palestine, Buber united his religious and philosophical teachings with his politics, which he felt were essential to a life of public dialogue and service to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He became a member of the group Ichud, which aimed at a bi-national state for palestinians &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;and Jews in Palestine. Such a binational confederation was viewed by Buber as a more proper fulfillment of Zionism than a solely Jewish state. In 1946 he published his work Paths in&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;Utopia, in which he detailed his communitarian socialist views and his theory of the "dialogical community" founded upon interpersonal "dialogical relationships".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following the war for independence in 1948, Buber told Ben Gurion that he believed that one of the most important priorities of the new state of Israel should be to solve the refugee problem. Ben Gurion refused to listen. Throughout the remainder of his life, Buber worked to defend the civil rights of Israeli Arabs, and he urged Jews and Palestinians to engage in genuine dialogue. He continued to try to influence public policy in this arena until his death in 1965.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-7.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-9.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-10.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We christians, how far we are from this dream. We not only do not keep this dream alive but instead we support violence and war in the name of our prophesies interpretations.&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes it is like if God that Martin Buber belived would notbe  the same some christians belive today. His God was a God who loved men. His God was a God of justice. So who is the God Christians believe in today  ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-7.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-9.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-10.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-6.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-8.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-11.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-12.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Land-Two-Peoples-Martin-Buber/dp/0226078027"&gt;A Land of two people&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Collected in A Land of Two Peoples are the private and open letters, addresses, and essays in which Buber advocated binationalism as a solution to the conflict in the Middle East. A committed Zionist, Buber steadfastly articulated the moral necessity for reconciliation and accommodation between the Arabs and Jews.&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SXC8h7aNlkI/AAAAAAAAAE8/w8r-cguvnmM/s1600-h/buber.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 150px; height: 230px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SXC8h7aNlkI/AAAAAAAAAE8/w8r-cguvnmM/s400/buber.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5291936853229672002" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-5259624928428508283?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/5259624928428508283/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/martin-buber-existentialist-jewish-that.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5259624928428508283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5259624928428508283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/martin-buber-existentialist-jewish-that.html' title='Martin Buber; an Existentialist Jewish  that had a dream'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SXC8h7aNlkI/AAAAAAAAAE8/w8r-cguvnmM/s72-c/buber.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-7201409733079740116</id><published>2009-01-13T21:09:00.031+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-27T00:18:56.071+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>Studying for the Wrong Test</title><content type='html'>&lt;h1  style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;(My own thoughts are after the article&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="weblogByline"&gt;O&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="weblogByline"&gt;riginal artice| &lt;a href="http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/studying-for-the-wrong-test"&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;By Don Heatley:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h1 style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;   &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The Kingdom of God is like a student studying for an exam. Night after night, he studied Chapter Twelve of his history book. “Surely, I am prepared for my test,” he thought. The very next day he went to school and sat his desk. Behold! The test was on Chapter Thirteen. He had studied for the wrong test. He who has ears, let him hear!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Recently, I was having a conversation with a sincere fellow Jesus follower who demanded to know my beliefs. The questions they asked made it clear that this too was a test. The very first thing they wanted to know was my stand on homosexuality, my opinions about abortion, and my beliefs about the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;I don’t think I passed.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Yet I wonder if, like the student in the parable, this person was studying for the wrong test. When we pass out the number two pencils and evaluate the orthodoxy of others, why are the criteria always issues that Jesus himself never addressed? Would it not be more appropriate to ask one another the questions Jesus asked, “Have you fed the hungry? Have you given water to the thirsty? Have you clothed the naked? Have you visited the imprisoned?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;the complete article &lt;a href="http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/studying-for-the-wrong-test"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt; ------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like this article and particularly its parabole and probably I will use it at church.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Reading it and reading the success it has had at its original blog (20 comments already on Tuesday the 13th.) Somehow, I am not that surprised  by the reactions.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I think there are two main issues this article points very well to me:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;1) The cultural interpretations of the Gospel that limits in itself the real message of the Gospel.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;2) The useless division of the gospel in a  so called Social Gospel and Spiritual Gospel that again limits the real power of the message.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I will not comment on the second.  Social Gospel is a theology of the 70's that some unaware Christians think it still exists. It has evolved and mutated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt; I proclaim the kingdom as present reality, yet that is coming soon. My belief on the Kingdom as an Integral Reality should resume my opinion on the second item.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But the first issue, it always makes me wonder. I am always amazed that three main central issues in American Christendom are "Abortion", "Homosexuality", and "Bible fundamentalism".&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;As I wrotte in a former comment "You need only one bad answer to qualify you as “a dangerous liberal” or even as a "non Christian". Once, an American visitor in my church in &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Paris&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; told me that Obama was clearly not a Christian because he was not 100% against homosexuality"&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;These issues are not even themes of discussion in most of European churches. Yet we have other taboos that could make the same three type question test to qualify a true christian.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For example a christian should never mix their moral values with politics here. &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;France&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; is a secular country. French Catholic Church was for centuries in Power. So French protestant holds very close to their hearts " church and state  division". A good Christian should never impose in politics his christian point of view.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;If homosexuality  is not a main issue of discussion (It is still but with lower priority), homosexual parenting is a big issue. Protestants stands here against it without need of thinking or developing their own opinions. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Money, I could write a complete essay on French culture regarding "making money", Christians here have a complex approach to this issue. In &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;France&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; it is no good to show off wealth and making money is usually regarded as obscene.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Back at home in &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Peru&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; 17 years ago, being a christian was a matter of not smoking, not drinking and carrying a bible all the time  an everywhere.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But where is the Kingdom on all these issues? Where is the love of God, the Grace? Where is our engagement to procalim and to give the world a foretaste of the Kingdom coming on these interpretations? Why some christians interpret littealy the Book of Revelations and other prophesies  and interpret  Mattew 5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt; on an spirtualized way&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Christianity is so busy and comfortable developing its faith around  cultural interpretations and remaining in a "confort zone" of cultural traditional moral values.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt; Indeed,  it is more comfortable to hide ourselves behind old local cultural church values rather than having our own opinions, and to look  and understand the dynamic changing force of the Gospel.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I do not recall Jesus standing for cultural moral values of his time. Actually, he was accused of challenging them. Am I wrong?&lt;br /&gt;If we all agree that the word of God is alive, why we remain in our old ways of thinking? Should  the church way of thinking be a static reality? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;"Ecclesia semper reformanda" used to say our reformed fathers and Jean Calvin would complete. "Why do you start it, if you do not continue it?"&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Faith is more than defending two or three moral values... if we do so, we will miss completly the real message So we would be studying for the wrong test.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-7201409733079740116?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/7201409733079740116/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/studying-for-wrong-test.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7201409733079740116'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7201409733079740116'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/studying-for-wrong-test.html' title='Studying for the Wrong Test'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-1044768656985921577</id><published>2009-01-12T13:15:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-13T15:31:24.677+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Latin American theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>Evangelical political "illuminated" presence in Latin America by Dario Lopez</title><content type='html'>When I was a young christian university student at the peruvian IVCF. Dario Lopez was our General Director ( I was 18 yeas old he was probably 30 years old). I had the chance to chat with him several times.. He was a brilliant fellow (He still is) I would annoyed him with my young silly Christian questions. He was always kind and patient and with good sense of humor.&lt;br /&gt;I am not a penthecostal, I never was, but his thinking and his life has always inspired me .&lt;br /&gt;He is not only an Integral Misson theologist, but he lives it daily as lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Born and reared in ,Lima, Peru, like me,Darío López grew up, in difficult conditions. He worked as child to help his Mother to survive. Later, as a young man, he came to faith in Christ through the witness of university students and became a member and minister in the &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placetype st="on"&gt;Church&lt;/st1:placetype&gt; of &lt;st1:placename st="on"&gt;God&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Since 1992, Dr. López has been the pastor of the Mt. Sinai Church of God, located in the marginal district in &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Lima&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, He has served on several governmental commissions dealing with issues of children’s rights and religious equality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;He Holds a Ph.D. from the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies/Open University of England, where he completed a thesis on the topic of Evangelicals and Human Rights in &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Peru&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;, Dario is the author of many books and numerous journal articles. His hard-hitting book is &lt;a href="http://www.ocms.ac.uk/transformation/results_authors.php?mm_aut=306"&gt;LA MISIÓN LIBERADORA DE JESÚS (The Liberating Mission of Jesus, translated by Rick Waldrop),&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;img src="http://www.pcpf.org/images/Membership/dario%20lopez.jpg" alt="Image" align="left" hspace="6" /&gt;&lt;div&gt;    &lt;h3&gt;Criticism of "illuminated" Christians who affirm that Evangelical believers have been called to "be the head and not the tail" in public affairs&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="hrtop"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;                     &lt;div class="life16" align="left"&gt;by                        &lt;span class="alignleft"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailyestimate.com/author.asp?AUTH_ID=1"&gt;Spero News&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href="http://www.dailyestimate.com/author.asp?AUTH_ID=1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.dailyestimate.com/images/more.gif" alt="See all articles by this author" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;                                        &lt;span="alignright"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Arial,Trebuchet MS,Helvetica;font-size:78%;"  &gt;Wednesday, January 25, 2006&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span="alignright"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Article copied and Pasted from;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.dailyestimate.com/article.asp?id=2456&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pentecostal Pastor Dario Lopez Rodriguez affirmed that Evangelical Churches in Latin America have an increasingly visible presence in the public scenario and a notable numeric growth that will continue in the following decades. &lt;p&gt;This growth is modifying the religious map and today the Catholic Church, predominant on the continent, is not the only confession that regulates the religious dynamic, said Lopez, vice-president of the National Evangelical Council and pastor of the Church of God. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;According to the Nationmaster 2003 Encyclopedia in Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Chile, El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala have Evangelical faithful that oscillates between 15 and 25 percent of the total population. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pastor Lopez said that Evangelicals in Latin America are no longer an imperceptible minority and their influence is now felt in the public sphere. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;According to Lopez there are undeniable facts that confirm that Evangelical sectors have obtained their own voice and their opinion is taken into account by the political community, civil society and the State. He cited, among these, their defense of human rights and their growing participation in key spaces to defend democracy and affirm citizen values. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He recognized politics as a legitimate missionary field for Evangelicals but warned that Christians who enter politics must have a solid biblical foundation, a concrete experience of service to their neighbor, a political culture and coherence between what they preach and what they do each day in their work. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He criticized "illuminated" Christians who affirm that Evangelical believers have been called to "be the head and not the tail" in public affairs and ignore the fact that serious politicians do not emerge spontaneously. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He deplored that the public management of the majority of Evangelicals who have entered Congress and the municipalities, in particular in the 1990-2000 period under former President Alberto Fujimori, has not been different from that of questioned politicians, marked by the vices of opportunism, nepotism, ambition and others. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many of them believed it was an opportunity to enjoy the benefits of a short time in power and accepted temporary favors, as if they were divine gifts, he said. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;ALC&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-1044768656985921577?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/1044768656985921577/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/evangelical-presence-in-latin-america.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/1044768656985921577'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/1044768656985921577'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/evangelical-presence-in-latin-america.html' title='Evangelical political &quot;illuminated&quot; presence in Latin America by Dario Lopez'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-904576720223932948</id><published>2009-01-10T21:45:00.011+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-13T15:08:59.399+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Give peace a chance'/><title type='text'>Israel, Christians and Gaza; where I stand</title><content type='html'>I wanted to take position regarding some Christian’s recent pro &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; statements in some Internet articles I read.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Eschatology and prophesies on &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; are not where I spend most of my time on my bible study time. I cannot say if agree or disagree with dispensationalist or Covenant’s positions. Althouhg I am a Calvinst (neo-calvinist), as a post modern fellow I will not take position until me, myself arrive to my own conclusions after challenging as much as I can all what I has been told before. Yet the reality of the kingdom coming and the Kingdom as a present reality stops me from remaining silent these days concerning the  &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Gaza&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; situation. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I have been always surprised with the blind support of some Christians to &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and I am very shocked when despite the facts and the gravity of current situation this blind support remains and even more, gets stronger. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I know that some Christian’s hearts beat strong for the chosen people &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;and sympathise with &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;. How not to do that? We read the same book (at least the first part), our God is Jewish, we take example in Hebrews heroes (I preach the youth of Joseph next Sunday) and some of us even give our children Hebrews names. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Yet despite the fact of our attachement to &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; we should not loose objectivity. God was very hard with them in the past. He denounced its sin and its injustices. It did not mean that he did no love them.  So why should we do differently? We support the people of God when they need and when it is justice, but we should also condemns its wrongdoing. The role of the church announcing the &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placetype st="on"&gt;Kingdom&lt;/st1:placetype&gt; of &lt;st1:placename st="on"&gt;Peace&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; and its justice is a prophetic task. We must not hesitate to denounce the injustices and crimes of the chosen people as well as we denounce a corrupted church. Evenmore if we think we love this people, we could not accept their sins.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot see the Lord Jesus taking the side of the Israeli army attacking &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Gaza&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;. Can you?&lt;br /&gt;Instead, I easily picture Jesus besides the suffering of the poors in &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Gaza&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, heeling their wounds, and comforting their souls, probably even dying with them in the buildings and suffering tortures with them. I think the Lord must be very disappointed with  &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel's&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; arrogance and its confidence in the power of its new "chariots," "horsemen”, "arcs" and &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;“shields” etc &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;rather than relying on the Lord's justice and searching to follow God's commands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Lets be honest they attack Gaza out of their pride and violence, and not for love towards Adonai!!.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;We are disciples of the Prince of Peace, we cannot remain silent. How can we rationalise and justify the barbaric acts of &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;. Why , like the prophets , we should not rice and condemn &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;'s sins?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I respect Christians that study very hard &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; prophesies and for this reason  I wanted to give them another angle of reflection. Justifying this war and these acts is not one more prophesy interpration. It is to make ourselves complices of what prophets once  denounced in the Bible. God will never be the Lord of  arroganst, powerfuls and assassins militars. Our God is the God for the  poor, the simple hearted. Our Lord is the Lord of  Justice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Do not take me wrong, I am not justifying Hamas or Hezbollah (radical muslims) I am condemning violence as "sin" against the Lord   whether it comes from &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;whether it comes &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;from radical Muslims.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;To be loyal to our Jewish Messiah and if we really love Israel we must  condemn these acts and to be part of the solution. Do not ignore the Word of God only  to fit your own interpretations. We have no other choice that fulfill our prophetic duty and we should  denounce &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;this war as an arrogant act of crime against humanity.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="strongtext"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-GB"&gt;“Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God” Matt 5:9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-904576720223932948?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/904576720223932948/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/israel-christans-and-gaza-where-i-stand.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/904576720223932948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/904576720223932948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/israel-christans-and-gaza-where-i-stand.html' title='Israel, Christians and Gaza; where I stand'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-5995641175304169746</id><published>2009-01-10T12:07:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-10T12:16:16.035+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Give peace a chance'/><title type='text'>The World Congress of Imams and Rabbis calls for the end of the hostilities between Israel and Gaza</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="additionnalData"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="italic"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="additionnalData"&gt;&lt;span class="italic"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="additionnalData"&gt;&lt;span class="italic"&gt;Published on    2009-01-07 16:51:00&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="additionnalData"&gt;&lt;span class="italic"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.imamsrabbis.org/en/index/index"&gt;http://www.imamsrabbis.org/en/index/index&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;h4&gt;World Congress of Imams and Rabbis for Peace&lt;br /&gt;Call of 7 January 2009&lt;/h4&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/OZo3-fE3jSQ&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/OZo3-fE3jSQ&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;(video of the collective manifestation of Imams and Rabbis at the Wall for Peace, Champ de Mars, Paris, 16 december 2008).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imams and Rabbis, wherever they are, commit themselves to organising prayer sessions to call for peace and universal brotherhood.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;We call for an immediate stop to rocket launches on the south of Israel and to bombings and combat in Gaza so as to protect thousands of innocent lives, allow victims to have access to humanitarian aid and to establish conditions needed for the resumption of the peace process.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;We call upon all the Palestinian leaders and the Government of Israel to return to the path of dialogue immediately.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="separator"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p&gt;We call upon everybody inclined to act, to participate in one way or another in the organisation of a humanitarian convoy that will leave Amman to go to Gaza via Sderot on 18 January 2009.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Several representatives of the Congress, Imams and Rabbis together with Christian leaders, will join the convoy to express our unconditional support for the Israeli and Palestinian civilian populations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-5995641175304169746?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/5995641175304169746/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/world-congress-of-imams-and-rabbis.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5995641175304169746'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5995641175304169746'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/world-congress-of-imams-and-rabbis.html' title='The World Congress of Imams and Rabbis calls for the end of the hostilities between Israel and Gaza'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-1224360983419992018</id><published>2009-01-09T13:27:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T15:50:08.371+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='My Sermons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>U2 : Yahweh</title><content type='html'>It a beautifull song almost a Hymn. I like to listen to it when preparing my sermons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the line&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Take this shirt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Polyester white trash made in nowhere&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Take this shirt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;And make it clean, clean"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moves all my guts and I feel so unworthy in front of our Lord.&lt;br /&gt;Indeed all is possible only by His grace&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/STPVvd_II08&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/STPVvd_II08&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will preach next Sunday at Church and the French chapter of IFEES (IVCF) is invited to our church to present themselves (I'am a former Peruvian and Canadian IVCF) . So I will adress to young students. I will talk about "the path of Joshua" before he guided Israel (Young Jospeh in the Exodus.) and eI will end up before he was named by God as new leader. I will  start my sermon with  "I still haven't found what I'm looking "  and close it up  with "Yahweh"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Take these shoes&lt;br /&gt;Click clacking down some dead end street&lt;br /&gt;Take these shoes&lt;br /&gt;And make them fit&lt;br /&gt;Take this shirt&lt;br /&gt;Polyester white trash made in nowhere&lt;br /&gt;Take this shirt&lt;br /&gt;And make it clean, clean&lt;br /&gt;Take this soul&lt;br /&gt;Stranded in some skin and bones&lt;br /&gt;Take this soul&lt;br /&gt;And make it sing&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yahweh, Yahweh&lt;br /&gt;Always pain before a child is born&lt;br /&gt;Yahweh, Yahweh&lt;br /&gt;Still I'm waiting for the dawn&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take these hands&lt;br /&gt;Teach them what to carry&lt;br /&gt;Take these hands&lt;br /&gt;Don't make a fist&lt;br /&gt;Take this mouth&lt;br /&gt;So quick to criticise&lt;br /&gt;Take this mouth&lt;br /&gt;Give it a kiss&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yahweh, Yahweh&lt;br /&gt;Always pain before a child is born&lt;br /&gt;Yahweh, Yahweh&lt;br /&gt;Still I'm waiting for the dawn&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still waiting for the dawn, the sun is coming up&lt;br /&gt;The sun is coming up on the ocean&lt;br /&gt;This love is like a drop in the ocean&lt;br /&gt;This love is like a drop in the ocean&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yahweh, Yahweh&lt;br /&gt;Always pain before a child is born&lt;br /&gt;Yahweh, tell me now&lt;br /&gt;Why the dark before the dawn?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take this city&lt;br /&gt;A city should be shining on a hill&lt;br /&gt;Take this city&lt;br /&gt;If it be your will&lt;br /&gt;What no man can own, no man can take&lt;br /&gt;Take this heart&lt;br /&gt;Take this heart&lt;br /&gt;Take this heart&lt;br /&gt;And make it break"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-1224360983419992018?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/1224360983419992018/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/u2-yahweh.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/1224360983419992018'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/1224360983419992018'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/u2-yahweh.html' title='U2 : Yahweh'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-8494520991615915233</id><published>2009-01-07T20:56:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-07T23:43:45.323+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Latin American theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>History of protestantism in South America from 1492 to 1901</title><content type='html'>This article is an extract from an article written vu Mariel Deluca Voth&lt;br /&gt;Library Director, Bethel Seminary San Diego :"Latin American Archives: A survey of historical protestant sources"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first major incursion of Protestantism into South America took place under the umbrella of Spanish authority (this is the case of German Lutherans that arrived in Venezuela in 1529). But it is in Brazil where the first French Protestant colony is founded in 1555 and where the first Confession of the Christian Faith that included 17 articles was written in 1555. It is interesting to note that this took place two years before the Pilgrims came to Plymouth in the United States in 1620&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Protestantism and Inquisition (1492-1655)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1529 German Lutherans settlers arrive in Venezuela&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1555-1654 Hugonote colony in Isla Villegaigon (island across present Rio de Janeiro)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1623-35 Anglicans entered the Caribbean western islands&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1630-1654 Reformed Church congregations are formed in the Dutch colony of Pernambuco&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1655 Anglican Church enters Jamaica&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Protestantism and Enlightenment (1655-1808)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1667 Reformed Church enters Surinam&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1701 Creation of the Anglican missionary society&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1735 Moravian missionaries in Dutch Guyana and Surinam&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1783 Baptist missionaries enter Jamaica&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1797 Anglicans enter Trinidad&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Samuel Escobar writes that “pioneers of the Protestant movement came during the period of the war of independence from Spain (1810-1824)”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1806 British Foreign Bible Society sends David Creighton to Uruguay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1818-1821 James (Diego) Thomson, Scottish Baptist Pastor and British Foreign Bible Society representative, lands in Buenos Aires and begins Protestant worship services. His missionary activity took him throughout Latin America including the Caribbean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1822 Baptists enter Belize&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1824 Lutheran German settle in Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1824 Anglican Church begins in Chile (L. Matthews)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1824 Methodists enter Belize&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1825 Anglican Church begins activities in Buenos Aires (J. Armstrong)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1825 Presbyterian Church begins activities in Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1834 Lutheran Church is organized in Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1836 Methodist Church arrives to Argentina and Uruguay with J.Dempster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1842 German Evangelical Congregation begins in Buenos Aires&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1853 Separation of Church and State and first proclamation of freedom of religion in Colombia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1856 Waldensian group enters Uruguay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1857-1917 Protestant beginnings in Mexico (Baptists in 1864, Friends in 1871, Congregationalist in 1872, Presbyterian in 1872, Methodist in 1873, Brethren 1891, Seven Day Adventist in 1891, Nazarene 1903)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1859 Waldensian Church enters Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1859 Methodist Church enters Peru&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1864 American Bible Society appoint Andrew M Milne to work in Latin America&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1872 Presbyterian Church begins in Chile with D. Trumbull&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1873 First British YMCA in Buenos Aires&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1874 Anglicans enter Puerto Rico&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1877 Methodist Church begins in Chile with bishop W. Taylor&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1882 Plymouth Brethren begin their work in Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1883 Methodists enter Cuba&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1886 Organization of the Rio Grande do Sul Lutheran Synod&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1886 Methodist Church enters Paraguay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1890 Salvation Army enters Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1890 Seventh Adventist enters Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1891 Salvation Army enters Montevideo, Uruguay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1891 Seventh Adventist enters Honduras&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1893 German Lutheran Church starts in Asunción, Paraguay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1893 Seventh Adventist enters Mexico&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1895 Creation of the South American Diocese of the Church of England&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1895 Christian and Missionary Alliance begins ministry in Venezuela&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1895 Seventh Adventist enters Chile, Uruguay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1897 Christian and Missionary Alliance begins ministry in Argentina, Chile and Ecuador&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1895-1914 Salvation Army, Church of God, Christian and Missionary Alliance, Church of the Nazarene and Pilgrim Holiness Church begin ministry in Latin America&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1898 Seventh-Day Adventist enters Peru&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1901-1915 Seventh-Day Adventist enters Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Venezuela and El Salvador&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-8494520991615915233?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/8494520991615915233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/history-of-protestantism-in-south.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8494520991615915233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8494520991615915233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/history-of-protestantism-in-south.html' title='History of protestantism in South America from 1492 to 1901'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-8049982735926483372</id><published>2009-01-07T10:55:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-07T10:54:25.381+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>South African Wine a French Protestant Heritage</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Have you ever tasted South African wine? When you live in France, wine is part of what French call " l'art de vivre" (the art of life) Even m self a simple peruvian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;after 13 years in France &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;I have learned a lot about wine culture. Saddly,  now  I have a hard time drinking  wine from kits or even drinking my own country's wine (Peruvian wine).I guess France has spolied me in terms of taste for wine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For French standards only very few countries have wines that can match French quality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They know that Californian, Spanish and Chilinian wines are French descendants wine  ( French inmigrants)   but how South African wine have become that good?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indded very few people know that South African wine is a French protestant heritage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is an article of the Huguenot Society of South Africa... enjoy it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;"The Huguenots who arrived at the Cape of Good Hope at the end of the 17th century, consisted&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; of only a fractio&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;n of the large-scale Protestant flight from France after the revocation of the Edict on Nantes in 1685.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Nevertheless their numbers were large e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;nough to have a considerable influen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;ce and leave a lasting impression on the young settlement at the Cape. As early as 1671 the first Huguenot refugee, Francois &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-4.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Villion (later Viljoen), arrived at the Cape. In 1686 the brothers Guillaume and Francois du Toit arrived. After the main stream of Huguenots arrived during 1688 – 1689, they comprised approximately one sixth of the free burgher population, after which individual arrivals continued sporadically until the termination of the state subsidised emigration in 1707.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;A complete surnames list (original spellings) of Huguenots who emigrated to the Cape and have descendants in South Africa, appears in the column at left. Not all of these surnames exist in South Africa today, since a number of Huguenot stamouers only propagated in the female lines.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The potential emigrants from Europe were allowed to take only the minimum amount of necessary luggage along. After their arrival at the Cape, they were expected to make a living from agriculture, business or by practicing a trade. If they decided to farm, they were allotted free farms, and implements, seed and animal stock would be provided, the cost of which had to be later reimbursed to the Dutch East India Company in terms of produce or any other goods.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.geocities.com/hugenoteblad/wingerd.jpg" align="left" width="243" height="190" hspace="20" /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The Dutch East India Company encouraged the Huguenots to emigrate to the Cape because they shared the same religious beliefs, and also due to the fact that most of them were highly trained craftsmen or experienced farmers, specifically in viticulture and oenology (the growing of grapes and making of wine, brandy and vinegar). They, as well as their descendants, proved that they were hard working and industrious, and their efforts led to a marked increase in the improvement of quality Cape wines. A number of wine estates have French names to this day, as a reminder of their important contribution to this industry in the Western Cape. The number of vine plants increased from 100 in 1655 (three years after the arrival of Jan van Riebeeck at the Cape) to 1,5 million in 1700.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;When John Ovington visited the Cape in 1693, he wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;“Their vineyards have been established over an area of more than seventy five English miles, yet they still have their eyes on large pieces of virgin soil before them. In this district they farm with livestock, plant maize, establish vineyards and improve everything conscientiously for the greatest benefit .... Their vineyards, which they have multiplied to a large variety of cultivars, can now also provide the passing ships…”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;A number of Huguenots were listed as experienced "vineyard pruners". The De Villiers brothers in particular arrived at the Cape with a reputation for viticulture and oenology. Through the years the De Villiers brothers planted more than 40 000 vines at the Cape.  They moved from the original farm allocated to them (which they named &lt;i&gt;La Rochelle&lt;/i&gt;) to finally settle on individual allottments near Franschhoek with the names &lt;i&gt;Bourgogne, Champagne&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;La Brie&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The legacy of the Huguenots was however far reaching. Today thousands of their proud descendants carry with dignity surnames of which the spelling is unchanged from the original, such as De Villiers, Malan, Du Toit, Du Plessis, Du Preez and Malherbe; the spelling of others were localised, such as Viljoen, Cronjé, Pienaar, Retief and Senekal. Certain first names which the Huguenots brought with them are poplular amongst their descendants, especially male christian names such as Francois, Pierre, Etienne, Jacques  and Louis. Research has shown that the contribution of the Huguenot genes to the Afrikaner people amounts to some 24%. Their descendants are proud of ancestors who sacrificed a great deal - even their country of birth -  and were willing to suffer personally for their religious convictions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The Huguenots are characterised by their intrinsic pride, diligence and honesty. Although they strove to maintain their own identify at first, they soon intermarried with the other colonists to fully become just South Africans. Within two generations even their home language, French, largely disappeared"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;more here:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/hugenoteblad/huguenots.htm?20095"&gt;http://www.geocities.com/hugenoteblad/huguenots.htm?20095&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;all copyrights belongs to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;Huguenot Society of South Africa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;this is only a partial copy and paste&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-8049982735926483372?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/8049982735926483372/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/south-african-wine-french-protestant.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8049982735926483372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8049982735926483372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/south-african-wine-french-protestant.html' title='South African Wine a French Protestant Heritage'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-2890078191738701944</id><published>2009-01-06T11:59:00.008+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-27T00:20:53.425+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>What is your theological worldview?  "The Test"</title><content type='html'>Fascinating exercice this Test !! And Honnestly I do like the result.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I guess I am a Neo Ortodoxs Post Modern  Evangelical. Cannot hide it any more, I have been cought!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder what would happen if I present myself like this next time I preach at my local Church (lol)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SWM8iFECYoI/AAAAAAAAAEc/SVLyVF3QLfI/s1600-h/test.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 326px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SWM8iFECYoI/AAAAAAAAAEc/SVLyVF3QLfI/s400/test.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5288136943635423874" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Titles are nice, and the mind exercices are nice too. So I did enjoy this test.  Yet let's do not loose sight that we are "Chrisitians" simple and basic Jesus followers. And if so, we are no better than the  widow, the prostitute and the thief that have decided to follow him too. They may even be before us in the Kingdom coming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Otherwise check this cool test here&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/Theology/svensvensven/whats-your-theological-worldview/"&gt;http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/Theology/svensvensven/whats-your-theological-worldview/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and have fun...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-2890078191738701944?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/2890078191738701944/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-is-your-theological-worldview-test.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/2890078191738701944'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/2890078191738701944'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-is-your-theological-worldview-test.html' title='What is your theological worldview?  &quot;The Test&quot;'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SWM8iFECYoI/AAAAAAAAAEc/SVLyVF3QLfI/s72-c/test.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-2781210488590765748</id><published>2009-01-05T16:58:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-06T08:55:52.533+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Latin American theology'/><title type='text'>What will the rise of the south mean for global Christianity?</title><content type='html'>&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-2.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-3.jpg" alt="" /&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="width: 123px; height: 123px;" src="http://www.urbana.org/gfx/u2003.spkr.samuelescobar.jpg" align="right" /&gt;&lt;span class="bodytextboldblue"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/RICARD%7E1.ROM/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Samuel Escobar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; is a leading Latin American theologian.   He is a  professor of missiology at Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wynnewood, Pennsylvania, and is theological consultant for the Board of International Ministries in Valencia, Spain. He is also president of the United Bible Societies and past president of the International Fellowship of Evangelical Students.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a peruvian evangelical student I met briefly Samuel on some conferences.&lt;br /&gt;He is peruvian too and he is a good example of those who tought my post modern generation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;National Catholic Reporter&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://ncronline.org/mainpage/specialdocuments/intervieww-samuelescobar.htm"&gt;http://ncronline.org/mainpage/specialdocuments/intervieww-samuelescobar.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Posted August 17, 2006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"&gt;Extract of an Interview with Samuel Escobar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Conducted August 14, 2006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;By JOHN L. ALLEN JR.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;all copy rights belongs to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;National Catholic Reporter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; this is only a incomplete copy and paste&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;.....&lt;br /&gt;Some Catholic observers say there’s an additional factor in the attrition -- the impact of liberation theology, which they believe “politicized” the church and drove some percentage of the middle and upper classes into Protestantism. True?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There may be some truth in that, but I think it has to be qualified. Liberation theology had its high point in 1968, when the Latin American bishops in Medellín committed to the “preferential option for the poor.” In turn, Medellín stemmed from what happened in 1955, when the Catholic Church recognized that it was losing both to Protestantism and to Communism. The working class and the young both seemed more attracted to Marxism than to the church. The bishops asked for help from abroad. In Peru, for example, they went to the United States and asked for missionary priests to come to the country as a kind of “tithe.” The idea was to save these people from Communism. These foreign missionaries were sent to work with the poorest of the poor, and when they got there, they discovered that the problem was not Communism but rather that the church was part of the oppressive structures of society. Influenced by these foreign missionaries, the bishops decided to realign themselves with the poor. In some forms, this choice became highly politicized, and they forgot about the spiritual dimension -- that is, people need a spiritual experience from the church, not just political guidance. This produced the popular saying that the Catholic Church opted for the poor, and the poor opted for the Pentecostals!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the same time, however, I’m very conscious that liberation theology responded to a reality in Latin America. We still have the pastoral question of poverty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Are you saying that it’s unfair to blame liberation theology for the declines in the Catholic Church?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, I think it’s unfair. For example, the small Christian communities that were one of the fruits of liberation theology are one of the areas in Catholicism in which there has been new life, and a new commitment to the basics of the faith, with an effort to turn that commitment into social awareness. Civil society in Latin America owes much to these small Christian communities, which have their parallels in Protestantism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;Will the growth in Protestantism in Latin American continue?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two things need to be said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, there’s a new phenomenon in Latin American Protestantism, which is the emergence of new charismatic mega-churches, which is not typical of the Protestant churches of the past. They have some similarities with the mega-churches in the United States, though the strongly charismatic element makes them different.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These mega-churches in Latin America appeal to some deep-seated aspects of Catholic culture. For one thing, they rely on symbols such as blessed water, which classical Protestantism shunned. They also feature a more authoritarian pastoral style and a denial of the priesthood of all believers, which has historically been a key element of Protestant churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We might say, therefore, that Protestantism will continue to grow in Latin America, but what will grow is not classical Protestantism as we have known it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, Latin American Protestantism faces a serious pastoral challenge. People are coming to the churches, so the numbers are increasing, but they have very basic pastoral needs. Like in Catholicism, some of these Protestant churches may fail if they don’t develop a pastoral strategy that comes out of a reflective theological approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;What should be the top priority?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Education in the faith. In Peru, for example, a charismatic pastor recently got 500,000 votes in national elections. That’s real political clout, but it’s not coupled to any deep theological understanding of relations between church and state, between religion and public life, which could under gird this political action. It has to go deeper.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;What will the rise of the south mean for global Christianity?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The real significance of what it means to be global, plural, and ‘catholic,’ will have to be understood in a new way. The Catholic Church in particular has had a way of existing in which elements of uniformity have had the upper hand. It has even had a single language, Latin. There’s a unity which comes from a center that defines things. But the church of the first century was not like that. The Protestant scholar Justo Gonzalez has written on why there are four gospels rather than one. He says the point was ‘catholicity,’ meaning the capacity to respond to different contexts. Today, there’s a need for Christians to have their own way of being Africans, Asians, Americans, and still be part of the church. In other words, this is testing catholicity. It will have to be understood in a new way. Protestantism faces the same challenge, and perhaps the mega-churches may be a new shape of Protestantism that eventually finds theological expression.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;What are the characteristics of southern Christianity?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Expression in worship is very different. Feeling is more important than thinking, and the emotional is more important than the rational. There’s a stronger sense of the church as a body, that we belong to one another here in the church, that we are brothers and sisters. This is of course also said in North America, but it may be truer in theory than in practice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can get some glimpse of all this in the United States through the experience of African-American Christianity. If you go to these long services, often three hours or more, it’s totally different from white Christianity. I’ve spent a lot of time in Philadelphia, and there’s been a slow process of mutual discovery there. This will happen on a global scale.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For some, this change in perspective is difficult. Some believe that anyone who’s not like us is not really a Christian. But it’s futile, because there’s already a process of change underway. In Protestantism, for example, we see this in recent evolution in music and worship expressions, which reflect the encounter with the rest of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;How will the typical white Christian in, say, Kansas City feel the impact?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For one thing, they may find the global church in their own backyard. Given the realities of global migration, today we find African, Asian and Latin American Christians everywhere. The question becomes, how will the traditional congregations in Middle America have fellowship with that strange church down the street? They’re very different, but they still have something in common. Can we recognize that these people with a very different way of practicing their faith are still Christians, and we may have something to learn from them? It’s a humbling experience to realize that this other way of being Christian is also legitimate, also a valid expression of the faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s all there in Paul’s letter to the Romans -- the multiplicity of cultures, the oneness and richness of a new global reality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;read the complete interview here&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://ncronline.org/mainpage/specialdocuments/intervieww-samuelescobar.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;http://ncronline.org/mainpage/specialdocuments/intervieww-samuelescobar.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-2781210488590765748?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/2781210488590765748/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-will-rise-of-south-mean-for-global.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/2781210488590765748'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/2781210488590765748'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-will-rise-of-south-mean-for-global.html' title='What will the rise of the south mean for global Christianity?'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-3510327268807218212</id><published>2009-01-04T15:43:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-05T23:49:13.804+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>A Mighty Fortress Is Our God</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="c"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="c"&gt;On April 26th 1518  Martin Luther, Master of Sacred Theology,&lt;br /&gt;and  Leonhard Beyer, Master of Arts and Philosophy, still members of the Augustinan order defended their "95 reformed theses" before their fellows Augustinians of the city of Heidelberg. A small city in the west of Germany around 50 km South of Frankfurt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="c"&gt;I spent my new year's holdays in this region and when I was at Heildelberg, lovely little medievel city,  I was very impressed with their Castle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SWDN5esMlGI/AAAAAAAAADg/gqUiiiGEPcY/s1600-h/Strasb09+180R.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SWDN5esMlGI/AAAAAAAAADg/gqUiiiGEPcY/s400/Strasb09+180R.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5287452349907637346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Knowing that Luther spent some time in this city, I wondered if he probably was impressed with this Fortres-Castle as well as me. I thought that probably later writing this famous Hymn inspired in Psaulm 42, he thought too of this fortress-castle which in a mighty way protected the city of Heildelberg.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a thought and I wanted to share it with you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I always loved this hymn, check the lyrics and the music of this beautiful Hymn here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.songsandhymns.org/hymns/sheetmusic/a-mighty-fortress-is-our-god"&gt;http://www.songsandhymns.org/hymns/sheetmusic/a-mighty-fortress-is-our-god&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;May Our Mighty Lord protect us and guide us on this new year and for ever  and ever&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-3510327268807218212?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/3510327268807218212/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/mighty-fortress-is-our-god.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3510327268807218212'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3510327268807218212'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2009/01/mighty-fortress-is-our-god.html' title='A Mighty Fortress Is Our God'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SWDN5esMlGI/AAAAAAAAADg/gqUiiiGEPcY/s72-c/Strasb09+180R.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-2058905854630917435</id><published>2008-12-30T14:35:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-10T23:45:32.484+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='My Sermons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>Protestati Summus</title><content type='html'>I will spend my new newyear at Strasbourg, East of France,  frontier region with Germany. Strasbourg is a historic protestant region.  I will visit too a medievel town called  Heildelbeg in Germany.  Martin Luther spent some time in Heildelberg defending his reformed thesis.  For me, this experience is very exciting. I am just going as a tourist to enjoy my holidays. Yet it will be  historical spiritual expereince. Some how walking in my cultural, spiritual and historical roots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two months ago I preached at my church for the Reform day;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Protestati Summus"  was a declaration made on the XVI century. It was transalated  at the time as "We protest". For this reason we are called until today "Protestants."  Yet if we go to the original Latin, it actualy means "We solemnly state"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My sermons is about our protestant heritage and how depitet the fact some times people think whe have no history our roots are strong and our steps are clearly marked in time and history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conclusion of my message was that 500 years after the reformed history "we still solemny state" (so; we protest) as Calvin and Luther did,  our faith in the Kingdom and his King&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My message  was in French  and you may find it on my church website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ere-massy-antony.org/predications/2008-11-02.pdf"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.ere-massy-antony.org/predications/2008-11-02.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet I find that Google does an almots acceptable English translation here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ere-massy-antony.org%2Fpredications%2F2008-11-02.pdf&amp;amp;sl=fr&amp;amp;tl=en&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ere-massy-antony.org%2Fpredications%2F2008-11-02.pdf&amp;amp;sl=fr&amp;amp;tl=en&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My blog does not accept PDF files, so until i find a site to post my english version, I can olny propose you the google translation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if you have the time to read and you don't mind some google imperfections, you will understand why this trip is so exciting to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have a good end of 2008 and may 2009 richly be Bleesed by our Lord&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-2058905854630917435?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/2058905854630917435/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/protestati-summus.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/2058905854630917435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/2058905854630917435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/protestati-summus.html' title='Protestati Summus'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-7374209458329099056</id><published>2008-12-29T22:16:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-05T23:52:27.808+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>500 years  of Jean Calvin</title><content type='html'>I hope you had a great Christmas. I  did my self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Living in Paris is an amazing historical and cultural experience. Walking on the 5em neighbourhood admiring christmas decorations of the rue Moufettard ( a chic and trendy street)  I found the  rue Jean Calvin.&lt;br /&gt;France is not a protestant country. Actually Paris is historically Catholic and mostly agnostic. So when I found a Jean Calvin street in such a nice neigborhood I felt pretty proud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SVlGhSNb2iI/AAAAAAAAADQ/-MbxlTtr1iY/s1600-h/rue_Jcalvin.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 216px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SVlGhSNb2iI/AAAAAAAAADQ/-MbxlTtr1iY/s320/rue_Jcalvin.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5285333175333804578" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did you know that Calvin is French? He was born 115 Km from Paris in a nice town called Noyon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2009 is coming and European Protestants will celebrate the 500 birthday of Calvin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check this site &lt;a href="http://www.calvin09.org/home/home.html%C3%A2%C2%8C%C2%A9=2"&gt;http://www.calvin09.org/home/home.html〈=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take your time to check this site and read how this humanist pushed even further the reform Martin Luther started. 500 years later and Calvin's teachings are still shaping our protestant culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;talk to you later&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-7374209458329099056?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/7374209458329099056/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/500-years-of-jean-calvin.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7374209458329099056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7374209458329099056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/500-years-of-jean-calvin.html' title='500 years  of Jean Calvin'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u9Rl8p-RXMU/SVlGhSNb2iI/AAAAAAAAADQ/-MbxlTtr1iY/s72-c/rue_Jcalvin.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-8869915965742069256</id><published>2008-12-23T07:54:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-05T23:52:43.032+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Latin American theology'/><title type='text'>What is Integral Mission ?  Rene Padilla</title><content type='html'>&lt;h3 style="font-weight: bold;" class="entry-header"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;This is a copy and paste of the "Integral Mission blog"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;Dr Rene Padilla has inspired me on my youth, I was 18 years old when I first read him.  Some years later he still inspires me and I still learn a lot from him. &lt;em&gt;He&lt;/em&gt; grew up in Ecuador and Colombia, studied in England and now lives in Buenos Aires in Argentina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                                                &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://integral-mission.org/blog/rene_headshot.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://integral-mission.org/blog/rene_headshot.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr C. René Padilla&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Although it has recently become fashionable to use the term integral mission, the approach to mission that it expresses is not new. The practice of integral mission goes back to Jesus himself and to the first century Christian church. Furthermore, a growing number of churches are putting this style of mission into practice without necessarily using this expression to refer to what they are doing: integral mission is not part of their vocabulary. It is clear that the practice of integral mission is much more important than the use of this new expression to refer to it.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The expression integral mission (misión integral) came into use principally within the Latin American Theological Fraternity (FTL) about twenty years ago. It was an attempt to highlight the importance of conceiving of the mission of the church within a more biblical theological framework than the traditional one, which had been accepted in evangelical circles due to the influence of the modern missionary movement. In the last few years the expression has been used so widely that the literal translation into English, integral mission, is gradually becoming a part of the vocabulary of those who are pressing for a more holistic approach to the Christian mission, even outside Spanish-speaking evangelical circles&lt;br /&gt;What is this approach to mission? In what aspects does it differ from the traditional approach? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The Traditional Approach to Mission&lt;/p&gt;  In the traditional approach, which took shape within the modern missionary movement especially since the end of the eighteenth century, the Christian mission was conceived of mainly in geographical terms: it consisted in crossing geographic frontiers for the purpose of taking the gospel from the Christian West to the mission fields of the non-Christian world (the heathen). In other words, to speak of mission meant speaking of transcultural mission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.... it continues here  &lt;a href="http://integral-mission.org/blog/2006/03/what_is_integral_mission_anywa_1.html"&gt;http://integral-mission.org/blog/2006/03/what_is_integral_mission_anywa_1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is only a copy and paste, all rights are own by "integral mission site"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-8869915965742069256?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/8869915965742069256/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/what-is-integral-mission-rene-padilla.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8869915965742069256'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8869915965742069256'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/what-is-integral-mission-rene-padilla.html' title='What is Integral Mission ?  Rene Padilla'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-3651648070324255119</id><published>2008-12-20T11:36:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-05T23:52:13.261+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Protestant Heritage'/><title type='text'>Costly Grace by  Dietrich Bonhoeffer</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"CHEAP GRACE is the deadly enemy of our Church. We are fighting to-day for costly grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheap grace means grace sold on the market like cheapjacks' wares. The sacraments, the forgiveness of sin, and the consolations of religion are thrown away at cut prices. Grace is represented as the Church's inexhaustible treasury, from which she showers blessings with generous hands, without asking questions or fixing limits. Grace without price; grace without cost! The essence of grace, we suppose, is that the account has been paid in advance; and, because it has been paid, everything can be had for nothing. Since the cost was infinite, the possibilities of using and spending it are infinite. What would grace be if it were not cheap?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheap grace means grace as a doctrine, a principle, a system. It means forgiveness of sins proclaimed as a general truth, the love of God taught as the Christian "conception" of God. An intellectual assent to that idea is held to be of itself sufficient to secure remission of sins. The Church which holds the correct doc trine of grace has, it is supposed, ipso facto a part in that grace. In such a Church the world finds a cheap covering for its sins; no contrition is required, still less any real desire to be delivered from sin. Cheap grace therefore amounts to a denial of the living Word of God, in fact, a denial of the Incarnation of the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheap grace means the justification of sin without the justification of the sinner. Grace alone does everything, they say, and so everything can remain as it was before. "All for sin could not atone." The world goes on in the same old way, and we are still sinners "even in the best life" as Luther said. Well, then, let the Christian live like the rest of the world, let him model himself on the world's standards in every sphere of life, and not presumptuously aspire to live a different life under grace from his old life under sin. That was the heresy of the enthusiasts, the Anabaptists and their kind. Let the Christian beware of rebelling against the free and boundless grace of God and desecrating it. Let him not attempt to erect a new religion of the letter by endeavoring to live a life of obedience to the commandments of Jesus Christ! The world has been justified by grace. The Christian knows that, and takes it seriously. He knows he must not strive against this indispensable grace. Therefore--let him live like the rest of the world! Of course he would like to go and do something extraordinary, and it does demand a good deal of self-restraint to refrain from the attempt and content himself with living as the world lives. Yet it is imperative for the Christian to achieve renunciation, to practice self-effacement, to distinguish his life from the life of the world. He must let grace be grace indeed, otherwise he will destroy the world's faith in the free gift of grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let the Christian rest content in his worldliness and with this renunciation of any higher standard than the world. He is doing it for the sake of the world rather than for the sake of grace. Let him be comforted and rest assured in his possession of this grace--for grace alone does everything. Instead of following Christ, let the Christian enjoy the consolations of his grace! That is what we mean by cheap grace, the grace which amounts to the justification of sin without the justification of the repentant sinner who departs from sin and from whom sin departs. Cheap grace is not the kind of forgiveness of sin which frees us from the toils of sin. Cheap grace is the grace we bestow on ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession, absolution without personal confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Costly grace is the treasure hidden in the field; for the sake of it a man will gladly go and sell all that he has. It is the pearl of great price to buy which the merchant will sell all his goods. It is the kingly rule of Christ, for whose sake a man will pluck out the eye which causes him to stumble, it is the call of Jesus Christ at which the disciple leaves his nets and follows him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Costly grace is the gospel which must be sought again and again, the gift which must be asked for, the door at which a man must knock.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such grace is costly because it calls us to follow, and it is grace because it calls us to follow Jesus Christ. It is costly because it costs a man his life, and it is grace because it gives a man the only true life. It is costly because it condemns sin, and grace because it justifies the sinner. Above all, it is costly because it cost God the life of his Son: "ye were bought at a price," and what has cost God much cannot be cheap for us. Above all, it is grace because God did not reckon his Son too dear a price to pay for our life, but delivered him up for us. Costly grace is the Incarnation of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Costly grace is the sanctuary of God; it has to be protected from the world, and not thrown to the dogs. It is therefore the living word, the Word of God, which he speaks as it pleases him. Costly grace confronts us as a gracious call to follow Jesus, it comes as a world of forgiveness to the broken spirit and the contrite heart. Grace is costly because it compels a man to submit to the yoke of Christ and follow him; it is grace because Jesus says: "My yoke is easy and my burden is light."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dietrich Bonhoeffer &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(22, 33, 71);font-family:Souvenir;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(1906-1945)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-3651648070324255119?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/3651648070324255119/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/costly-grace-by-dietrich-bonhoeffer.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3651648070324255119'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/3651648070324255119'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/costly-grace-by-dietrich-bonhoeffer.html' title='Costly Grace by  Dietrich Bonhoeffer'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-5185425332311911465</id><published>2008-12-18T03:42:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T06:16:28.796+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>Bono on Jesus</title><content type='html'>in Conversation with Michka Assayas...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;....Christ has his rank among the world's great thinkers. But Son of God, isn't that farfetched?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bono: No, it's not farfetched to me. Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: he was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn't allow you that. He doesn't let you off that hook. Christ says: No. I'm not saying I'm a teacher, don't call me teacher. I'm not saying I'm a prophet. I'm saying: "I'm the Messiah." I'm saying: "I am God incarnate." And people say: No, no, please, just be a prophet. A prophet, we can take. You're a bit eccentric. We've had John the Baptist eating locusts and wild honey, we can handle that. But don't mention the "M" word! Because, you know, we're gonna have to crucify you. And he goes: No, no. I know you're expecting me to come back with an army, and set you free from these creeps, but actually I am the Messiah. At this point, everyone starts staring at their shoes, and says: Oh, my God, he's gonna keep saying this. So what you're left with is: either Christ was who He said He was—the Messiah—or a complete nutcase. I mean, we're talking nutcase on the level of Charles Manson. This man was like some of the people we've been talking about earlier. This man was strapping himself to a bomb, and had "King of the Jews" on his head, and, as they were putting him up on the Cross, was going: OK, martyrdom, here we go. Bring on the pain! I can take it. I'm not joking here. The idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside-down by a nutcase, for me, that's farfetched …&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bono later says it all comes down to how we regard Jesus:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bono: … [I]f only we could be a bit more like Him, the world would be transformed. …When I look at the Cross of Christ, what I see up there is all my s--- and everybody else's. So I ask myself a question a lot of people have asked: Who is this man? And was He who He said He was, or was He just a religious nut? And there it is, and that's the question. And no one can talk you into it or out of it.&lt;br /&gt;Bono 2005&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;taken from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h&gt;http://www.christianitytoday.com/music/interviews/2005/bono-0805.html&lt;/h&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-5185425332311911465?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/5185425332311911465/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/bono-on-jesus.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5185425332311911465'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5185425332311911465'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/bono-on-jesus.html' title='Bono on Jesus'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-5197974629245589811</id><published>2008-12-18T03:08:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T15:50:47.830+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>PSALME 40 by U2</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/N9I9H2Y_lQA&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/N9I9H2Y_lQA&amp;amp;hl=fr&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;40&lt;br /&gt;I waited patiently for the Lord&lt;br /&gt;He inclined and heard my cry&lt;br /&gt;He brought me up out of the pit&lt;br /&gt;Out of the miry clay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will sing, sing a new song&lt;br /&gt;I will sing, sing a new song&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How long to sing this song?&lt;br /&gt;How long to sing this song?&lt;br /&gt;How long...how long...how long...&lt;br /&gt;How long...to sing this song&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He set my feet upon a rock&lt;br /&gt;And made my footsteps firm&lt;br /&gt;Many will see&lt;br /&gt;Many will see and fear&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will sing, sing a new song&lt;br /&gt;I will sing, sing a new song&lt;br /&gt;I will sing, sing a new song&lt;br /&gt;I will sing, sing a new song&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How long to sing this song?&lt;br /&gt;How long to sing this song?&lt;br /&gt;How long...how long...how long...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-5197974629245589811?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/5197974629245589811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/psaume-40-by-u2.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5197974629245589811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/5197974629245589811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/psaume-40-by-u2.html' title='PSALME 40 by U2'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-8288977407268535420</id><published>2008-12-16T12:04:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-27T00:22:20.607+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Modern Orthodoxy'/><title type='text'>My Sources</title><content type='html'>&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top"&gt;Through out these years some authors have strongly influenced on my way of thinking. So  I wanted to share a litlte my youth heros.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rene Padilla, (Argentinian Baptist) I started reading theology with him in 1990. His works on the Kingdom Coming as a present reallity woke up on me a hunger to  understand better the Word of God and His kingdom coming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jurgen Moltman (German Lutherian) and his Theology of Hope, marked my life in 1991.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dietrich Bonhoeffer (German Lutherian) and his courage and understanding of the love of God  inspired me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Karl Barth (German Reformed) and his neo Orthodoxy set up my path of thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soeren Kierkeegard (Dannish Lutherian) challenged me and faced me to my own paradoxes and invited me to embrace the pardoxe in Christ.&lt;br /&gt;Oscar Cullman (French Lutherian) I read him in English , his chirstolgy made me  realize even more the love of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jacques Ellul (French Reformed) redefined my understanding of Culture and History from Biblical point of view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and  Jean Calvin, (the French reformer), who so often sends me back to the Word of God as only source of truth!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What am I? I am Christian of course and.... my church?  well I am an Elder at a Parisian French Reformed Evangelical  Church( Hugonot Descendant )&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-8288977407268535420?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/8288977407268535420/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-sources.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8288977407268535420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/8288977407268535420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-sources.html' title='My Sources'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584256936946511016.post-7339956197221798835</id><published>2008-12-15T00:00:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2009-01-05T23:51:30.800+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='my self'/><title type='text'>A Post Modern culture child</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;This blog is my eclectic way to rethink and share my ideas. Lately I find myself missing being a University Christian Student trying to change the world or at least the church. Good old times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;It has been 13 years that I live and work in Paris. I do share many things from a European point of view. My main references are Eureopen theologians and that is since my early young age as a Christian.&lt;br /&gt;Yet I am a proud Latin American who remains very peruvian deep inside. Although when I arrived in France, I interpreted and experienced French culture from an English North American way of thinking. I lived in Canada, Nova Scotia almost 5 years at Acadia University (Business School) This experience marked my life and some times I miss Canada as my own home country&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have lived my faith in three different cultures and languages and although each time the experience was so different… Jesus is the same here, there and over there, yesterday, today and tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My life is not common either, I divorced 6 years ago and since then I am single dad beacuse my son remained with me.( I have full custody)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So although I am very orthodox on my evangelical faith, my life and experiences are pretty much the result of the post modern culture of the end of XX century and when I read the Bible I cannot read it otherwise. So Orthodoxy may not mean the same for me as for you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Being post-modern is a matter of being a little provocative? yes in way,  but I am Post modern despite myself.&lt;br /&gt;If Jean Calvin, Martin Luther, &lt;/span&gt;Ulrich Zwingli challenged their time, it was because they challenged traditional truth with a new way to read the Bible. So I think my generation has too a new challenging way to read the bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ecclesia Reformata&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Semper&lt;/em&gt; Reformanda: "The church reformed and always to be reformed".&lt;br /&gt;This was the motto of our reformed Fathers. So why should we be afraid of being post modern?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is our task no to remain in our easy Bible readings that keeps us safe in our Confort Zone and support Status Quo.&lt;br /&gt;We have to challneg our points of view and read and reread the "living"word of God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet  never forget that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;"The fear     of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov. 1:7).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5584256936946511016-7339956197221798835?l=protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/feeds/7339956197221798835/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/post-modern-culture-child.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7339956197221798835'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5584256936946511016/posts/default/7339956197221798835'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://protestant-in-paris.blogspot.com/2008/12/post-modern-culture-child.html' title='A Post Modern culture child'/><author><name>Ricardo</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14080640828966249575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
